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This topic has 18 replies, 7 voices, and was last updated 19 November 2013 at 11:05 by Ian S C.

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17 November 2013 at 13:44 #17217
Ian S C
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17 November 2013 at 13:44 #135792
Ian S C
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A new exhibit found in our Museum today, it's labled:

Universal Bench Valve Lathe

Patent Pending

A. G. Savage

Indianapolis

USA

It seems to have been made around 1910.

The tool is advanced by the crank on the left hand end, and the valve is rotated by the crank at the right.

Edited By Ian S C on 17/11/2013 13:48:24
17 November 2013 at 13:50 #135793
Ian S C
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Sorry, I forgot to include some idea of size, it's some where about 8 inches tall. Ian S C
17 November 2013 at 14:00 #135796
jason udall
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Interesting indeed..
Like the simplicity..esp. the headstock..but UNIVERSAL?
18 November 2013 at 01:13 #135869
Ian S C
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Well it will cut any valve angle, and length of valve stem can be accommodated, not sure of the maximum, and minimum diameter of the valve head. Things were simpler in those days, you local garage could also do a rebore without taking the engine out of the car in many cases, and all done manually. You try and find a garage that can do more than change the oil these days and you'v found a rare one. Ian S C
18 November 2013 at 03:45 #135871
I.M. OUTAHERE
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A similar machine was sold on E-BAY recently but not the same vintage as this one , I think it bought in a couple of hundred bucks .

Ian
18 November 2013 at 10:00 #135890
Ian S C
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This one was bought on Trade Me, NZ's equivalent of E-Bay, and given to the museum. We get some great exhibits, some times they just arrive, other times someone asks if we would like what ever they have. Ian S C

PS; Back sometime in the 1990s (with in the last 20yrs), we did have a group of model engineers on a tour from UK, come and visit us, they also visited a tractor collection a little nearer Christchurch.
18 November 2013 at 10:32 #135896
Michael Gilligan
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Ian,

That looks a great little machine.

I was hoping to find the Patent … but drew a blank on both Google Patent Search, and espacenet.

MichaelG.
18 November 2013 at 11:18 #135902
jason udall
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Actually Iann.. you are right..Questioning "universal"..( not your description I know) was maybe a little harsh

The mc is elegantly simple..simply elegant
18 November 2013 at 11:56 #135904
Michael Gilligan
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Jason,

I suspect that "Universal" is used in the somewhat limited context of the Valve Universe.

… But let's not get too philosophical.

MichaelG.
18 November 2013 at 12:33 #135906
Davey J
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Currently on a well known auction site **LINK**
18 November 2013 at 17:24 #135932
Michael Gilligan
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Davey,

I would like that one … but doubt I could justify the shippng cost.

MichaelG.
18 November 2013 at 20:46 #135943
Muzzer
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Reminds me of these apple peelers:

**LINK**

This one looks as if it could almost turn a thread with a few minor mods. Presumably this could be marketed as "semi-automatic"?!!

Merry
18 November 2013 at 21:52 #135945
Mike
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I just wonder what feat of co-ordination it takes to work the thing. Looks as if you have to turn one handle clockwise with your right hand and another anti-clockwise with your left. Even if you turn both in the same direction, I reckon it would take some practice!
19 November 2013 at 05:10 #135950
I.M. OUTAHERE
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No use getting me to turn them I have enough trouble turning the feed handle on my mill in the right direction !

One would be grateful that 2 valves per cylinder were the norm and not 4 or so !
I wonder if the Mechanic had a pet Monkey that danced as he wound the handles !

Ian
19 November 2013 at 07:54 #135953
Michael Gilligan
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This is not the Savage machine, but it shows the idea.

MichaelG.

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Edit: and another

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 19/11/2013 07:57:08
19 November 2013 at 08:10 #135955
Michael Gilligan
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Ian,

I just found this [later model ?] … which is dated, and has a clearer cast of the maker's name.

Looks like A. C. Savidge

MichaelG.
19 November 2013 at 08:16 #135956
Michael Gilligan
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Got it … Here is the Patent.

MichaelG.
19 November 2013 at 11:05 #135970
Ian S C
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Muzzer, those apple pealers, or a cast iron version have been around since the middle of the 19th century.

The valve lathe on E-Bay doesn't seem to have the crank handle for turning the valve.

On our one I would not be surprised if the cutting tool is carbon steel. Ian S C
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