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  • #135631
    Andrew Laurenson
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      @andrewlaurenson36965

      “ Graduated Handwheel dial for my Myford Super 7 lathe.

      I became aware that the Graham Meek designed graduated handwheel dial was once again available to purchase as a ready to fit unit. I have been wanting one of these for a while but couldn’t find an outlet that supplied them.
      I spoke to a Steve Tracey on the phone and arranged to send a cheque the same day.
      The dial arrived a few days later and I fitted it to my lathe (S7 PCF) in a matter of minutes – in fact a lot quicker than it took me to read the instruction sheets!
      I am very pleased with the dial and am now able to measure a length accurately without having to use the leadscrew handwheel or compound slide – and I can set a zero at any position.
      The company is Steve Tracey Tooling Services Ltd and other than being a very satisfied customer, I have no connection with the company.
      Why this wasn’t/isn’t a standard Myford fitment – it certainly looks like one – I don’t know.

      Andy. Shetland. “

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      #17213
      Andrew Laurenson
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        @andrewlaurenson36965
        #135678
        Brian Wood
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          @brianwood45127

          Hello Andrew,

          For the benefit of others who might want to do the same, could you add some contact details, address, phone etc to help them find the company.

          They don't appear to have a website, today's first point of reference.

          Regards Brian

          #135683
          Robbo
          Participant
            @robbo

            Brian,

            email Steve@SteveTraceyToolingServices.co.uk phone 07952-547002

            Also sells them on ebay as "steamer1915" Price £160 incl postage from Hull

            Last item no was 321246507801

            Phil

            #135684
            Clive Hartland
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              @clivehartland94829

              I am a bit surprised that users of the Myford handwheel have not learned that you set the handwheel to zero and then use the top slide to touch the tool to the work, no need of an adjustable rotatable scale at all.

              I agree its nice to have an adjustable scale but at that cost I can live with my method.

              Clive

              #135688
              NJH
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                @njh

                Hi Clive

                I think you are missing the point a bit here. What you suggest is fine for moving the carriage by means of the leadscrew handwheel and is ideal for small movements along the bed . The item under discussion is a graduated CARRIAGE handwheel on the apron. This enables rapid and accurate positioning of the whole assembly to any point on the bed.

                I accept that it is a "Nice to Have" rather than a "Must Have" but I have certainly found it useful. I had one as (another!) birthday indulgence from my wife. It is beautifully made, works a treat and looks good. What more could one ask?

                I should point out that this is Graham Meek's design and, if cost is an issue, he describes its construction in Vol.1 of his book "Projects for Your Workshop". An interesting project in itself I suspect – but, for me, there are lots of interesting projects out there and my wife's generousity diverted me away from this one!

                Cheers

                Norman

                Edited By NJH on 16/11/2013 10:47:34

                Edited By NJH on 16/11/2013 12:07:08

                #135692
                Steamer1915
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                  @steamer1915

                  Thank you for all the comments, especially Andy the OP. Without wanting to incur the moderator's wrath, can I just say that the price is £140.00 post paid uk. The ebay price is to cover the ebay and paypal costs. That last listing is now in the Netherlands by the way.

                  Steve.

                  Edited By Steamer1915 on 16/11/2013 11:15:11

                  #135701
                  Douglas Johnston
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                    @douglasjohnston98463

                    Just to digress for a moment, people tend to forget that selling on ebay is not cost free and it can often be wise to seek out a sellers own website where the item being bought can sometimes be cheaper. Mind you the opposite can also be the case, the difference often being in the delivery charges where the ebay postage is less than that charged on the sellers own site. Buyer beware.

                    Doug

                    #135703
                    Andrew Laurenson
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                      @andrewlaurenson36965

                      As mentioned in the last post this particular seller does not charge postage in the UK .

                      Andy

                      #135705
                      Sub Mandrel
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                        @submandrel

                        > I accept that it is a "Nice to Have" rather than a "Must Have" but I have certainly found it useful. I had one as (another!) birthday indulgence from my wife. It is beautifully made, works a treat and looks good. What more could one ask?

                        Having made one of these for my mini-lathe to Graham's design, it's one of those things that you never knew you needed, but once you have it you wonder how you would ever do without it. Mine measures to 0.01" (although you can split the graduations and achieve better repeatability) and is therefore ideal for doing all and anything you would have done using a rule rather better (such as a stepped shaft). It is also a godsend for turning up to shoulders (internal or external). It's much more convenient than the leadscrew hand wheel and doesn't suffer from errors caused by the feed nuts not engaging properly (or disengaging).

                        Neil

                        #137203
                        michael m
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                          @michaelm

                          Until I read of it on this thread I wasn't aware of the handwheel dial but reading the positive responses, and having sometimes over the years thought "wouldn't it be nice if…" I decided to buy one. I contacted Steve and my order was quickly delivered.

                          I suppose that over the years many of us have bought items, hoping to expedite jobs or improve accuracy, and then found that they didn't quite live up to their anticipated promise. In my own case the enthusiastically acquired Myford 4-way tool post has spent most of it's life on the shelf, whereas the Myford-Dickson QC toolpost bought many years ago from the original Reeves I really would not want to be without. Where milling is concerned, the the Eclipse box angle plate, although used occasionally, hasn't really lived up to expectation and I was interested to read that George Thomas himself was a little disapointed in it's utility. Having said that, he was a great protagonist for the 4-way toolpost, it just goes to show that "nice to use……essential…. must have……..nice to own" are all very subjective concepts. It could be argued that if you posess a 4-jaw chuck then a 3-jaw is not essential, but who would want to be without one. Although they are currently in the ascendant the same could be said of workholding collets. (Possibly excepting very small horological work.)

                          As to the handwheel dial, no, I certainly wouldn't like to be without it now. Machining up to shoulders, blind boring and working very close to the chuck jaws you can simply rely on the dial and it soon becomes second nature to watch that rather than the tool point. The index is readily reset to zero to facilitate easy measurement. It's straightforward to fit, having comprehensive instructions, very nicely engineered, beautifully finished and complements the lathe rather than looking like something bolted on as an afterthought.

                          This forum has been accused on occasion of negativity and can sometimes be tedious but I believe that in making us aware of new developments and equipment and giving us the feedback of users it fulfills a very important function

                          Last but not least, all credit is due to Graham and Steve for their respective parts in making this available. I've posted a picture to show it fitted.

                          #137229
                          Steamer1915
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                            @steamer1915

                            Hello Michael,

                            Thank you for your kind comments. You have made some very interesting points about the usefullness or otherwise of accessories – I'm relieved to hear that the dial falls into the former catergory! The picture that you have posted in your album shows the dial up very well. I really don't think that Graham could have designed this any better. Your comment about it complementing the lathe rather than being something bolted on as an afterthought is something that crops up regularly in customers feedback.

                            Steve.

                            #138501
                            Lambton
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                              @lambton

                              I have just fitted an imperial version to my Super 7 and I am delighted with it. The quality has to be seen to be believed as it is superb- comparable with that of a Swiss watch. It is a pleasure just to handle the components and admire the very careful workmanship that has gone into their production.

                              Like many others, over the years, I have purchased most “nice to have” accessories available for the Super 7, steadies, vertical slides etc. most of which I very seldom if ever use. This accessory is quite different as it is a permanent fixture that will be used and appreciated every single time I use the lathe. I consider the purchase price to be very reasonable considering the amount of use it will get.

                              I appreciate that the lead screw hand wheel /lead screw can be used to traverse the saddle in a “graduated” way however the hand wheel is a long way from the “action” and takes attention from the cutting tool.

                              The hand wheel dial was delivered by return of post and it was packed very well giving it total protection from the machinations of the Christmas mail.

                              I took my time fitting the dial which is quite straightforward following the comprehensive and clear instructions.

                              I do not have any connection with Steve Tracey Tooling Services other than being a very satisfied customer.

                              Eric

                              #138535
                              Steamer1915
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                                @steamer1915

                                Thank you for you kind comments Eric. I hope it gives you many years of use.

                                Best regards,

                                Steve.

                                #138538
                                blowlamp
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                                  @blowlamp

                                  Is one available for the Mini Lathe as yet?

                                  Martin.

                                  #138540
                                  Steamer1915
                                  Participant
                                    @steamer1915

                                    Hello Martin,

                                    Not as yet. I understand from Gray that the publication of the article describing the construction of the Mini-lathe version will be early next year. After publication I will be looking at the feasibility of supplying a ready made dial or possibly a kit of parts.

                                    Best regards,

                                    Steve.

                                    #614334
                                    Sakura
                                    Participant
                                      @sakura

                                      I'm sure the handwheel is a fine piece of kit but have you seen the Linntools qd dro? I bought bought both types for my Boxford and they work really well. Just uses magnets and clamps and easily fitted and removed for only when you need them. Usual disclaimers, only a satisfied customer.

                                      Edited By Sakura on 21/09/2022 09:42:11

                                      Edited By Sakura on 21/09/2022 09:42:54

                                      #614335
                                      Martin Kyte
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                                        @martinkyte99762

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                                        Tailstock Mic (Mine)

                                        and

                                        Carriage handwheel (Meek)

                                        regards Martin

                                        #614339
                                        Graham Meek
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                                          @grahammeek88282

                                          Hello Martin,

                                          That is a nice job you have made of the Tailstock Dial. The fitment certainly looks as though it has always been there as Myford had intended.

                                          Home Shop Machinist is currently running an article on this Dial with due reference to the original article in MEW No 279. I also understand this will soon be available commercially.

                                          Regards

                                          Gray,

                                          #614349
                                          Martin Kyte
                                          Participant
                                            @martinkyte99762

                                            Thanks. The thimble was blacked after straight knurling, graduating and stamping, not neccesarily in that order and then a skim was taken to reveal all the lines. The stamping could have been better but I'm pleased with it. It's better than the 1/3 inch GHT version I made originally.

                                            here is a pic of the gear cutters.

                                            tscutters.jpg

                                            Edited By Martin Kyte on 21/09/2022 12:22:35

                                            #614359
                                            john fletcher 1
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                                              @johnfletcher1

                                              I to have one of Steve's products, bought from him in person at Harrogate show all those years ago. Money well spent as far as I'm concerned, well made and easy to use. John

                                              #614361
                                              ega
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                                                @ega

                                                Martin Kyte:

                                                What, please, was your thinking behind the tailstock zero being stamped on its side?

                                                Just curiosity as I'm a lever feed user.

                                                #614362
                                                Martin Kyte
                                                Participant
                                                  @martinkyte99762

                                                  Only that it wouldn't fit the other way round. The dial is marked 0 1 2 3 4 which is obviously 0.0 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 and the 50 is stamped inbetween each tenth of an inch. It makes sense to me the tenths are large and obvious and the 50 thou small but informative.

                                                  regards Martin

                                                  #614363
                                                  ega
                                                  Participant
                                                    @ega

                                                    Thanks for explaining.

                                                    Am I right in thinking that you have modified the stroke from the standard 0.3 in per turn as in the GHT version?

                                                    #614374
                                                    Martin Kyte
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                                                      @martinkyte99762

                                                      Well I wouldn't describe the modification as mine as the design was one of Graham Meek's but yes the internal gearing drives the thimble to show 500 thou when the handwheel has made 5/3 turns. The tailstock leadscrew remains the same although the addition of a thrust race makes the feel more sensitive.

                                                      Quick pic of the internals

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