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  • #91067
    Oil Magnet
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      @oilmagnet

      Hi,

      After spending an exellent day at the Harrogate mex ,I bought this centre square from one of the stalls. As you can see from the picture it does not quite live up to the promise on the packet it came in. I think I could have made a better job out of lollypop sticks using a knife and fork! grrrr angry 2.

      Oh well there are many stories like this I'm sure .

      Regards OM (aka Victor Meldrew).

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      #16816
      Oil Magnet
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        @oilmagnet
        #91071
        David Clark 13
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          @davidclark13

          Hi oil magnet.

          You can still use it although I would send it back for a replacement including cost of postage.

          Draw four lines at 90 degrees.

          The centre is in the small square in the middle.

          regards david

          #91072
          KWIL
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            @kwil

            You could always make one, very simple and you would only have yourself to blame if it was not spot on!wink

            Edited By KWIL on 18/05/2012 10:20:29

            #91074
            Les Jones 1
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              @lesjones1

              Are you sure that it is the straight parts of the square are contacting the bar annd not just the tips. Looking at the picture the bar looks to be on the limit of the capacity of this square. If the square is the fault it is a very large error in manufacturing. I was looking at some 90 Deg. squares on a stand at Harrogate and they were well off square. I finished up buying a Soba one which I could not check at the time as it was in a sealed box. It did turn out to be OK.

              Les.

              #91075
              NJH
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                @njh

                Hi OM

                Well it's nice to know that they have Friday afternoons in China too!

                Seeing your pic I whizzed out to the workshop and had a look at my SOBA square – I think you were a bit unlucky!

                Yes easy to make I guess but you could spend all your time making tools and ( when they work!!) these are cheap enough.

                Regards

                Norman


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                #91077
                Martin W
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                  @martinw

                  Hi

                  Just out of interest I transferred your picture of said centre finder into my drawing package and measured the included angle between the blade and the exposed leg. This turned out to be within 0.5 degrees of 45 degrees. While not a particularly accurate way to check things it does indicate that the error you are getting is greater than any apparent error of the finder. I support the comments by Les that the bar looks to large for the finder. Prior to sending it back I would try it out on a smaller diameter rod and see if the same error exists there.

                  Cheers

                  Martin

                  Superimposed the bar/rod onto the finder and it should fit between the legs albeit a bit close but should be OK . A quick measurement fom the photo on the drawing package supports this with the legs measuring, from photo, 50mm and the radius of the bar/rod 38mm. Not true world but gives a relative measurement that confirms clearancewink

                  Edited By Martin W on 18/05/2012 11:05:02

                  Edited By Martin W on 18/05/2012 11:09:44

                  #91085
                  NJH
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                    @njh

                    Bit picky maybe Martin but the packet says 40mm !

                    N

                    #91086
                    Oil Magnet
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                      @oilmagnet

                      Hi ,

                      Thats a scary thought njh, 2 billion cock ups every friday afternoon !.

                      The error is just as bad on smaller diameters, I used a larger one one just for the photo.

                      om

                      #91097
                      Ian S C
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                        @iansc

                        Did you use a scriber,or a pencil? Ian S C

                        #91098
                        Martin W
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                          @martinw

                          Hi Norm

                          Yeah I know but in this world everything is relative so  I measured relative to what I had got cheeky, namely the picture. Anyhow what does the 40mm refer to? Is it the length of the blade, the guides or the maximum diameter that can be accomodated? I don't know blush so left it how it turned out so 'Bob's me uncle' and that's relative as well.

                          Cheers and take care.

                          Martin

                          Edited By Martin W on 18/05/2012 13:08:18

                          #91112
                          Ketan Swali
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                            @ketanswali79440
                            Posted by NJH on 18/05/2012 10:38:42:

                            Hi OM

                            Well it's nice to know that they have Friday afternoons in China too!

                            Seeing your pic I whizzed out to the workshop and had a look at my SOBA square – I think you were a bit unlucky!

                            SOBA is Indian. I believe that they do have friday afternoons there too. nerd

                            #91116
                            Oil Magnet
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                              @oilmagnet

                              Hi all,

                              Just unlucky this time I guess. Its only a small item so more annoying than anything else.

                              Two more pics, the penny shows the square remedy suggested by DavidClark1, and the other showshow badly offset the scribbing arm is.

                              Thanks for the interest

                               

                               

                               

                               

                              Regards om

                              Edited By Oil Magnet on 18/05/2012 16:07:11

                              Edited By Oil Magnet on 18/05/2012 16:07:48

                              #91117
                              David Clark 13
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                                @davidclark13

                                Hi There

                                You should be able to file or mill that true.

                                You don't need to go right into the vee, just far enough.

                                regards David

                                #91119
                                Oil Magnet
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                                  @oilmagnet

                                  Hi,

                                  I will give it a go David, lollypop sticks on standby !.

                                  om.

                                  #91121
                                  NJH
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                                    @njh

                                    Hi Ketan

                                    Whoops – not Chinese but Indian eh? Oh well SO BE (A) it then !! ( Sorry)

                                    Well, either way, mine works well and the finish on it is good.

                                    Off for a lie down now.

                                    Regards

                                    Norman

                                    #91125
                                    Richard Parsons
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                                      @richardparsons61721

                                      Oil Magnet if I may suggest go to your local trading standards officer (if they are not in conference (aka down the pub). This is totally contrary to the Sale of Good Act as it is “NOT of merchantable quality and fit for the purposes for which it was intended” i.e. to mark the centre of a round item.

                                      Mind you if they were anything like the lot where I used to live you could NEVER contact them!

                                      rdgs

                                      Dick

                                      #91126
                                      blowlamp
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                                        @blowlamp

                                        It looks more drunk than soba teeth 2

                                        Martin.

                                        #91127
                                        Oil Magnet
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                                          @oilmagnet

                                          enlightened I will take it with me to the pub and then try to catch it up.

                                          om.

                                          #91138
                                          Versaboss
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                                            @versaboss
                                            Posted by David Clark 1 on 18/05/2012 16:15:57:

                                            You should be able to file or mill that true.

                                            If I'm not completely off my shoes, this would rather need the mysterious putting-on tool than milling something off (and making the error even larger).

                                            But who knows, maybe I am…

                                            Greetings, Hansrudolf

                                            #91142
                                            Nicholas Farr
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                                              @nicholasfarr14254
                                              Posted by Versaboss on 18/05/2012 22:13:23:

                                              Posted by David Clark 1 on 18/05/2012 16:15:57:

                                              You should be able to file or mill that true.

                                              If I'm not completely off my shoes, this would rather need the mysterious putting-on tool than milling something off (and making the error even larger).

                                              But who knows, maybe I am…

                                              Greetings, Hansrudolf

                                              Hi Hansrudolf, take another look at OM's close up photo of the square, it clearly shows that the marking off blade is over the centre point of the vee, hence the need to cut some off.

                                              Regards Nick.

                                              #91150
                                              David Clark 13
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                                                @davidclark13

                                                Hi Hansrudolph

                                                You are completely of your shoes.

                                                regards David

                                                #91195
                                                Versaboss
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                                                  @versaboss

                                                  I agree… crying

                                                  To my excuse: not knowing this instrument, I thought the shiny surface was from the part which has to be marked.

                                                  Ashamedly hiding in a corner,

                                                  Hansrudolf

                                                  #91197
                                                  Chris Trice
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                                                    @christrice43267
                                                    Posted by David Clark 1 on 18/05/2012 16:15:57:

                                                    Hi There

                                                    You should be able to file or mill that true.

                                                    You don't need to go right into the vee, just far enough.

                                                    regards David

                                                    No, you shouldn't have to. Send it back or there's no incentive for suppliers to supply decent tooling. If you try to modify it and screw it up, you can't return it and you've lost your money.

                                                    #91212
                                                    Tony Pratt 1
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                                                      @tonypratt1

                                                      Send the heap of scrap back! Our manufacturers were screwed by cheap Eastern goods, now they are gone the suppliers left will have to come up with the necessary quality, don't accept rubbish!

                                                      Tony

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