This is a photo of a weight driven clockwork spit (somehow or other it got up loaded on its side, sorry,) that I have a mind to make. The speed regulating “fly?”is driven by a helical wheel engaging an appropriate spiral pinion.
This has come out on its side😠 as well.
The pitch of the spiral is about 5/16”, it’s major diameter is about 5/8” and the minor diameter5/16”.
My guess that the spit is 18th century and might be French, these are only guesses.
All of the other pinions are lantern pinions and I can get my head round those but how is a spiral, if that is the right word, made.
Does anybody out there have any ideas an if necessary correct my terminology as my Google searching has been fruitless. I have found many pictures of clockwork spits but no information about manufacturing a spiral pinion.
It doesn’t answer the question of ‘how to make’ … but I think you will have better luck searching for worm and worm-wheel … because ‘loose’ as it may be, that’s what you have.
MichaelG.
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Edit: __ it hasn’t evolved very far from Leonardo’s design
Curiously OD of the worm has a double taper – but in the wrong direction if you were hoping to maximise worm/wheel contact. So maybe they were trying to minimise the w/w contact so that pitch mismatch wouldn't stop the job ?
Probably easier to make on a treadle lathe with a very slow speed. Wrap a piece of string around it to mark the spiral, mark with paint that will go into the gaps in the turns of string. Follow the path with a file hand forming a rough groove. As you get some definition for the groove the file will follow it under power. Just a version of hand chasing a thread.
No Dick you aren't daft, this is bugging me as well! It doesn't appear to work like a clock escapement but the rotation of the 3 armed fly would control the overall speed. But if you have to rotate this manually – what's the point? It would be easier to have a peasant with a crank handle attached to the ox or whatever?
Am I daft,? in order to get this to run you need to spin the "fly" by hand, and when it stops spinning the spit will stop rotating.
I haven’t actually operated it yet but my understanding is that it runs powered by a weight on a rope wrapped round the wooden drum. The fly is there to keep the speed down presumably by air resistance. There is a neat arrangement that rings the bell when when the. Rope is nearly all run off the drum thus warning the cook to rewind the rope.
Like Dick and Mike I fail to see how it can work, unless the fly is turned , UNLESS the helix angle can impart some power to the fly ? Looks more to me like a striking train ? Noel.
lots of early automotive back axles had worm/wheel. They backdrive fine as long as the ratio isn't too high. I'm aware of several narrow gauge locos that use 5:1 worms as final drive, no problem
Sorry, mean to insert a link there. This short video clearly shows that a gear will move a worm as it does initially, albeit with a bit of manual help to get things going. Antique spit roaster
In days gone by, I wonder how many kitchen skivvies have had a thump around the head from that flying arm whizzing round at a rate of knots? No health & safety back then…