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  • #482481
    geoff adams
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      @geoffadams14047

      parting tool.jpgI want to machine the area in blue the part is 125 mm 40 mm the boss is 25.3 dia top of boss is z zero the blue area is -.5 mm cutter 10 mm dia no matter what i try i cant get fusion to machine blue area any ideas welcome

      thanks Geoff

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      #15282
      geoff adams
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        @geoffadams14047
        #482484
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          @formermember32069

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          #482487
          SillyOldDuffer
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            @sillyoldduffer

            Might be just be the picture, but is there an impossible to cut trench around the boss thingy?

            trench.jpg

            Dave

            #482488
            geoff adams
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              @geoffadams14047

              see what you guys are saying and i agree but surely there must be a way of machining this face with whatever dia cutter you like or have in your box 6 mm would do the job but using 10 mm not so many passes and does not affect anything else i could easily prog by hand

              Geoff

              #482489
              blowlamp
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                @blowlamp

                Is it just a facing cut?

                Martin.

                #482490
                Martin Rock-Evans
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                  @martinrock-evans77799

                  I can't claim to be an expert, but something that has tripped me up in the past is that if the stock in F360 is set to the finished height, it won't want to machine the top surface. Maybe try setting the stock size a little higher?

                  #482492
                  Anonymous

                    It's one of those seemingly simple jobs which are a PITA. If you trying facing the system will machine the outside perimeter with no problem but will overcut the boss. Conversely if you profile between the boss and outline it won't completely machine the corners of the outline.

                    A simple but very inefficient solution is to profile the boss but have a number of 8mm stepovers such that the whole of the blue area is covered.

                    Alternatively one could create a rectangular outline more than 10mm from the outside of the blue area and profile between the rectangular outline and the boss.

                    Andrew

                    #482494
                    geoff adams
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                      @geoffadams14047

                      yes it is just a facing cut but leaving the boss .5 mm high

                      i have machined the part using 3d adaptive clearing contour to finish the boss contour to machine outside profile and pocket to machine the c/bore but this leave part of the blue are not machined

                      #482496
                      JasonB
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                        @jasonb

                        use "2D Pocket"

                        Select 10mm flat bottom endmill

                        For geometry click the face you have in blue

                        Set stepover at say 6mm and zero stock to leave

                        Press Go!

                        raised boss.jpg

                        raised boss 2.jpg

                        Tool will take off a series of 5mm wide cuts, blue line indicates ctr of tool axis which will automatically work out that it needs to be offset 5mm from edge of boss, you can play about with directions, stay down etc if you want

                        Click the top right icon on the F260 screen and select "share" then "publick link" post link here then we can play with the actual part, this is the simplified example I used which you can open in fusion

                        Edited By JasonB on 27/06/2020 13:34:36

                        #482497
                        geoff adams
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                          @geoffadams14047

                          Andrew

                          yes simple job have come across this problem before for a simple op it seems over complicated must be a way round it your last suggestion is the way iam going to do but will use cambam an use pocket lot easy that fusion

                          Geoff

                          #482500
                          geoff adams
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                            @geoffadams14047

                            thanks Jason

                            just tried that works great will now go an machine it new there had to be a way

                            ps still working on the midget engine

                            Thanks Geoff

                            #482538
                            geoff adams
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                              @geoffadams14047

                              thanks everyone for your help been in the shop and cut the face Jasons post worked great

                              many thanks Geoff

                              #482588
                              Anonymous

                                Pocketing doesn't work in my CAM software, which is why I didn't suggest it:

                                test_part.jpg

                                It sort of does what is sensible, ie, keeps within the outer boundary and outside of the inner boundary, even if it isn't what is wanted. Presumably Fusion360 has extra knowledge of the part geometry and knows it can go outside the outer boundary?

                                Andrew

                                #482595
                                blowlamp
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                                  @blowlamp

                                  Ecam does a similar job to Fusion 360 using its Contour strategy. You can either define a stock model of the desired shape or use a ready-defined block adjusted to your own dimensions.

                                  Whilst not a 3D system, it is fairly straightforward to use and it doesn't have the learning curve of Fusion 360 either.

                                  Unlike Fusion 360, Ecam isn't free, except at the weekend (Sat/Sun), but this might well be enough for some people regardless.

                                  Demo video I did with Ecam's solution.

                                  Martin.

                                  #482623
                                  JasonB
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                                    @jasonb

                                    Andrew, I wonder if it is because you are selecting two boundries and not a surface? F360 won't do it if I select the outer edge and edge of the circle.

                                    On some types of cut F360 allow you to select cutter inside, on or outside the boundaries and also add an +/- offset to any of those options

                                    This would be another option which is actually quicker for this part, first a parallel path to remove most metal but it leaves scallops around the raised boss so a followup contour around the boss is needed to clear that up, this snip shows the cutter part way through the contour cut.

                                    parallel and contour.jpg

                                    #482662
                                    Anonymous
                                      Posted by JasonB on 28/06/2020 07:27:51:

                                      Andrew, I wonder if it is because you are selecting two boundries and not a surface? F360 won't do it if I select the outer edge and edge of the circle.

                                      Definitely selecting a surface and the selection is called a FlatArea. But the system still highlights boundaries, so may not be really selecting a surface. Same result on a much newer demo version. Looks like it's a limitation of my CAM.

                                      Andrew

                                      #482727
                                      Alan Wood 4
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                                        @alanwood4

                                        Not sure if I have understood the problem but I would run Op 1 as a face from Stock Top to Model Top

                                        Second op could be a 2D Contour from Model Top to Selected Contour to clear perimeter shape to bottom of overall 'keyhole' shape

                                        Third op is 2D Adaptive from Model Top – 0.4mm (anything below model top) to Selected Contour (the top keyhole shape edge) with either zero stock to leave or some stock left for a Rest Machining clean up depending on finish.

                                        Op 2 and Op 3 could interchange position.

                                        mew fusion.jpg

                                        But maybe I misunderstood.

                                        #482772
                                        Nick Hughes
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                                          @nickhughes97026

                                          Using 2 Axis (2D) Facing in AlibreCAM gives you this:-

                                          Edit:- "Select Flat Area" used

                                          test mill.jpg

                                          Edited By Nick Hughes on 28/06/2020 20:11:57

                                          #482800
                                          Anonymous
                                            Posted by Nick Hughes on 28/06/2020 19:57:20:

                                            Using 2 Axis (2D) Facing in AlibreCAM…………

                                            That is interesting, you learn something every day; thanks very much. thumbs up

                                            It works fine in my old version of VisualMill:

                                            test_part_a.jpg

                                            I had in mind that using a facing operation with bosses would overcut the boss; but obviously that's not the case. I think it arose from my experiments with pockets that are open on one side. Pocketing doesn't properly finish the corners that meet the open edge. But facing overcuts the three sides that are not open. I'd better go back and do some tests.

                                            Andrew

                                            #482861
                                            Nick Hughes
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                                              @nickhughes97026

                                              To use Pocketing with an open pocket in ViualMill, you can either,

                                              1) Select the sketch in Alibre that you used for the Extrude Cut ( you need to extend the "open side" of the sketch by more than the the cutter radius) as the Drive or Containment region

                                              2) Create another sketch in Alibre, on the top or base of the pocket, that also extends beyond the open side by again, more than the cutter radius and select this sketch for the Drive or Containment region.

                                              The second option would also allow you to use the Pocketing operation and get a full clean up of the edges, in the above tests.

                                              Edited By Nick Hughes on 29/06/2020 10:16:11

                                              #482866
                                              Anonymous

                                                I use option 2.

                                                Andrew

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