The domestication of Laser Cutters

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The domestication of Laser Cutters

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  • #15152
    Michael Gilligan
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      #299654
      Michael Gilligan
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        @michaelgilligan61133

        I have been pondering the purchase of a laser cutter/engraver.

        To date, I have found nothing that fits in my 'Goldilocks Zone' of price/performance/footprint … but I am greatly encouraged by this: **LINK**

        http://www.mr-beam.org/#about

        It's a little too big, and a little too pricey; but looks "just right"

        Any thoughts ?

        MichaelG.

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        Edit: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mrbeam/mr-beam-ii-the-desktop-laser-cutter-and-engraver

        Edited By Michael Gilligan on 26/05/2017 09:13:28

        #299655
        John Stevenson 1
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          @johnstevenson1

          It’s a joke. For that money you can get a Chinese. 50 W not 5W delivered tomorrow and not vapour ware

          #299656
          Michael Gilligan
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            @michaelgilligan61133

            Thanks, John

            Your response is much as I expected.

            I've already realised that the market doesn't yet offer what I want … but I think this one may be an indication of how these machines will evolve.

            MichaelG.

            #299660
            richardandtracy
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              @richardandtracy

              The 'Mr Beam' one looks like a 'marketing slicked over' version of this:

              **LINK**

              It would leave you £1250 to make the protective box with and buy a hacksaw to shorten the travel.

              I do think the Mr Beam stuff is going in absolutely the wrong direction. It is making something that is inherently useful & practical into something 'Cool, fluffy & ultimately useless'. A must have toy for the creative 'illiterati' to decorate their high tech, white gadget filled iHome. Not something that will be used, because it'll fill that white, sterile, iHome with horrible smoke and involve thoughts of practicality, and how to make things.

              You may have gathered from my comments, I am far from enamoured with marketing makeovers or the target of such makeovers.

              Regards,

              Richard.

              #299662
              John Stevenson 1
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                @johnstevenson1

                To get an idea of marketing tactics search Glowforge laser over on the sawmill creek
                .com
                Three year late and millions of CI money lost ?

                All smoke and mirrors and emperors new clothes

                #299669
                Neil Wyatt
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                  @neilwyatt

                  This one may be cheap enough for you to feel it's worth a play:

                  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEJE-DK-8-KZ-1000mW-USB-Laser-Engraver-DIY-Printer-Cutting-Engraving-Machine-UK/391618901817

                  If you do, I'd be interested in a report on how you got on for MEW.

                  Neil

                  #299673
                  Michael Gilligan
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                    @michaelgilligan61133
                    Posted by Neil Wyatt on 26/05/2017 11:21:24:

                    This one may be cheap enough for you to feel it's worth a play:

                    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEJE-DK-8-KZ-1000mW-USB-Laser-Engraver-DIY-Printer-Cutting-Engraving-Machine-UK/391618901817

                    If you do, I'd be interested in a report on how you got on for MEW.

                    Neil

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                    I was briefly tempted by that one, Neil … but initially decided that it was too low-powered, and too small an image size [512×512 pixels] to be of much use.

                    However … If you're interested in an article for MEW, that suddenly makes it much more attractive.

                    MichaelG.

                    #299674
                    richardandtracy
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                      @richardandtracy

                      At 38x38mm work area, it is a bit small… Shame all these things seem to work on a raster type control.

                      Also says it can't engrave acrylic [or metal]. Bit limited, but may be worth a play.

                      Regards,

                      Richard.

                      #299675
                      AndyP
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                        @andyp13730

                        I have the 500mW version of this NEJE device, the kids bought me it! and it's a toy. It has been months since I played with it but from memory the software was limiting and whilst the laser will cut paper, burn cardboard and singe wood I wanted to remove resist from metal surfaces for etching and it failed miserably. I suspect the ability of the metal to conduct away the heat. I don't know if doubling the power to 1 watt will make a significant difference.

                        Andy

                        #299676
                        Michael Gilligan
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                          @michaelgilligan61133
                          Posted by AndyP on 26/05/2017 11:59:22:

                          I have the 500mW version of this NEJE device, the kids bought me it! and it's a toy. It has been months since I played with it but from memory the software was limiting and whilst the laser will cut paper, burn cardboard and singe wood I wanted to remove resist from metal surfaces for etching and it failed miserably. I suspect the ability of the metal to conduct away the heat. I don't know if doubling the power to 1 watt will make a significant difference.

                          Andy

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                          Thanks for that, Andy

                          MichaelG.

                          #299685
                          Neil Wyatt
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                            @neilwyatt

                            Useful to know.

                            Has anyone tried the next size up?

                            Neil

                            #299706
                            Enough!
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                              @enough

                              Looks like one that's based on a hacked DVD-drive mechanism (a la Instructables) – albeit with the laser replaced.

                              #299713
                              Neil Wyatt
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                                @neilwyatt

                                You could replace the hot-end on a Prusa with a small laser or even a small rotary tool for engraving, you would just need slightly different firmware and to generate the right 'flavour' g-code.

                                Neil

                                #314888
                                Tony Jeffree
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                                  @tonyjeffree56510
                                  #314894
                                  John Stevenson 1
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                                    @johnstevenson1

                                    Tony,

                                    These are the first 'useful' entry market models. Having said that they are not without problems having cut so many corners.

                                    Do a Google on K40 laser problems

                                    #314895
                                    Tony Jeffree
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                                      @tonyjeffree56510

                                      John

                                      Thanks – will do. I notice that at least on Ebay, there is a significant price hike between these "40w" models and the larger "50w" models – such as this:

                                      http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/High-Precise-50W-CO2-Laser-Engraving-Cutting-Machine-Engraver-Cutter-nUSB-/121871318887?hash=item1c6018bf67:g:iSMAAOSwg6lZln8S

                                      http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/High-Precise-50W-CO2-Laser-Engraving-Cutting-Machine-Engraver-Cutter-nUSB-/121871318887?hash=item1c6018bf67:g:iSMAAOSwg6lZln8S

                                      Are the latter any more reliable?

                                      Edited By John Stevenson on 02/09/2017 11:11:24

                                      #314901
                                      John Stevenson 1
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                                        @johnstevenson1

                                        Tony,

                                        I have one of these, had it for about 5 years now and it's worked flawlessly in a semi industrial environment.

                                        I must admit that I use mine for engraving on stainless mainly, such as this.

                                        #314903
                                        Ian P
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                                          @ianp
                                          Posted by John Stevenson on 02/09/2017 11:38:33:

                                          Tony,

                                          I have one of these, had it for about 5 years now and it's worked flawlessly in a semi industrial environment.

                                          I must admit that I use mine for engraving on stainless mainly, such as this.

                                          Does it have a spell checker built in?

                                          Ian P

                                          #314923
                                          Mark Rand
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                                            @markrand96270

                                            Yeah, but you can turn it off!

                                            #314939
                                            Tony Jeffree
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                                              @tonyjeffree56510
                                              Posted by John Stevenson on 02/09/2017 11:38:33:

                                              Tony,

                                              I have one of these, had it for about 5 years now and it's worked flawlessly in a semi industrial environment.

                                              I must admit that I use mine for engraving on stainless mainly, such as this.

                                              John –

                                              Thanks – faulty memory on my part, I had it in mind that yours was more powerful than 50 Watts. Good to know.

                                              #315313
                                              Robin
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                                                @robin

                                                I bought one of those Chinese blue box 50W laser Johnnies second hand for taking apart. I am a bench top explorer.

                                                The software had some weird dongle, but sort of worked once you got the idea. The final lens had about 1/16" of gunge which I took to be glue residue from burning plywood. The aquarium pump designed to circulate cooling water soon demised and I melted one of the mirrors off the laser tube end. The fume extraction was totally ineffective. The high voltage power supply was an open PCB and looked frightfully dangerous.

                                                However it sliced Perspex/Acryllic like there was nothing there. It just disappears where the laser light touches it. These things are God's gift to anyone wanting to cut acrylic.

                                                I bought a new tube, a new PSU, I am choosing a new chiller pump frame and head.

                                                Also the below workpiece table, a sort of frosted aluminium plate designed to scatter the beam. Could do with a bit of a raise lower mechanism. Maybe some of that honeycomb aluminium.

                                                The laser head needs air blowing downwards to clear the fumes away.

                                                I 3D printed new clamps to hold the tube. The originals were the wrong size and well packed below to raise them up. You get the picture.

                                                #315326
                                                GoCreate
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                                                  @gocreate

                                                  Hi

                                                  There's some very good videos concerning Chinese laser engravers/cutters on this channel, very comprehensive and informative, well worth a look.

                                                  https://www.youtube.com/user/SarbarMultimedia

                                                  https://www.youtube.com/user/SarbarMultimedia

                                                  Nige

                                                  Edited By tractionengine42 on 05/09/2017 12:26:49

                                                  #315341
                                                  Jeff Dayman
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                                                    @jeffdayman43397

                                                    If you are cutting acrylic and not pulling the fumes away, this would explain the gunged up lens. Acrylic smoke has all manner of nasty stuff and resin vapours in it. Some sort of vacuum extraction system as near as possible to the beam, exhausting outdoors, would probably relieve a lot of the gunge and would improve the quality of the air for breathing greatly. Probably an inexpensive shop vac could be adapted. Look for a quiet model if finding one.

                                                    #315411
                                                    Robin
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                                                      @robin

                                                      I like quiet, I have no less than 3 Bambi compressors, is this "quiet model" shop vac for real or just wishful thinking?

                                                      Edited By Robin Hewitt 1 on 05/09/2017 19:58:05

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