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Small milling machine cnc conversions

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    John P
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      @johnp77052

       

      Hi Murray

      I thought it best to start a new thread to show some
      photo's of the Dore Westbury mill as a cnc machine.
      Some of these photo's have been seen in a short
      Mew article in 2011 (MEW 179).

      Hopefully some others may wish also to post some
      small cnc machine conversions as i am sure these will
      be of interest to many.

      Photo's in album "Dore westbury cnc".

      Photo 1. a general view of the machine ,the lower part
      is still the Dore Westbury the Y axis slideway has been
      reinforced and has a little extra travel now.The main
      modifications are the head and column. The column is
      made from 5 inch square tube welded to a large steel
      block for the base, a cast iron slideway is bolted to the
      column.A counterbalance weight fits inside the column
      to hold the weight of the head assembly.
      The machine uses Compucut one of the earliest
      hobby cnc systems, as a unipolar system does not
      have the speed of more modern cnc systems .The
      machine uses pumped neat cutting oil ,side and front
      screens contain any oil spray,as can be seen a deep
      oil tray covers the full movement of both axis.

      Photo 2. A view of the rotary table ,the machine and
      rotary table has a Myford nose along with many other
      machine parts that i have. Chucks are fixed to the table
      with a faceplate, to prevent unscrewing
      the split collar clamps the faceplate to the table spindle .
      The rotary table is a fabricated unit made from a steel
      block,it uses preloaded bearings on the output shaft
      and the worm and is sealed and filled with oil.As far as
      i can remember it is a 72 tooth gear inside driven by
      a toothed belt brings the total ratio to 90 to 1.

      Photo's 3 and 4 some of the castings that i made for
      the conversion,in 3 the stepper motor mountings and
      bearing housings ,three of these made one can be
      seen on the end of the table, the Y axis motor is at the
      back of the column out of the way and the Z at the top
      of the column.The machine has been operational for
      11 years now the conversion of the machine started 5
      years before that some problems with the castings
      (failures) meant some delays during the build as i do the
      casting outside winter is not a good time for this.
      The castings for the head the pattern here in photo 4 i
      had similar problems with but eventually ended up with
      a pair of good castings.

      Photo 5. Some of the head parts the two castings
      ,the spindle is supported in 3 bearings 2 angular
      contacts at the nose and 1 plain ballrace at the top.
      An ER 16 collet fixing is direct in the spindle and
      fixes the maximum shank size at 10 mm.

      Photo 6. The head part at a more complete stage ,the
      motor is 1450 rpm 550 watt 3 phase driven from an
      inverter in conjunction with the belt drive which gives
      3 ratios the speed range is from 100 rpm to 10,000 rpm.

      Photo 7. Another view of the rotary table ,this underside
      view gives a clue on how it is constructed ,it is probably a
      little over engineered but is very solid.The part rotary
      table on the right is for another project.

      Photo 8. When a machine is converted in this way you
      have to accept the loss of a machine as a result ,something
      that many do not consider when doing this .
      Something that you learn along the way all of the other
      cnc conversions i have done have left machines as part
      cnc and manual usage .

      I eventually resurrected My Dore Westbury,
      well part of it with this Axminster table and a few parts
      and has been a very useful little machine over the years.

      Some brief specification of my Cnc Dore westbury
      X traverse 9.900 inches
      y traverse 7.400 inches
      Spindle nose to table max 18 inches min 1 .000 inch
      Throat 7 inches
      Resolution 0.0005 inch.
      4th axis rotary table 18000 steps per rev.

      Hope that you find the photo's of interest.

      John

       

      Edited By John Pace on 21/02/2016 14:34:16

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      John P
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        @johnp77052
        #226328
        Michael Gilligan
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          @michaelgilligan61133

          That's all rather impressive, John

          Thanks for sharing the photos and details.

          MichaelG.

          #226330
          MW
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            @mw27036

            Those patterns look great,you must be very pleased, what are they made of?

            Michael W

            #226353
            John P
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              @johnp77052

              Hi Michael

              The patterns for both of the castings are made
              from hardwood and plywood,in the photo 4
              the ends are just turned circular sections joined
              by two flat sides .Any gaps are just filled with car
              body filler ,sanding sealer is used to fill the grain
              then just wax polish.

              John

              #226362
              Muzzer
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                @muzzer

                John – that's fascinating. Thanks for posting those and sharing the background. I hope others will post details of their conversions if they haven't already.

                I'm part way through a larger conversion myself but it's been parked excruciatingly for the last 15 months while we complete our move back to Blighty from Canada. Finally we are in a new house but there is the slight matter of building a garage before I can resume. The experience is similar to how I imagine it being like as an inmate in an open prison.

                Murray

                #226372
                John P
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                  @johnp77052

                  Hi Murray

                  I know how you feel i had the same sort of thing from
                  a house move and was without a shop for about four
                  years,it seemed at the time that i would be at work all
                  week when the sun was shining and as soon as i had
                  a day off it was raining .Its hard going laying bricks while
                  holding an umbrella.
                  It is now hard to believe that it is eighteen years ago
                  that the new workshop was finally completed .
                  A positive attitude will see you through .
                  Hope you are up and running soon.

                  John

                  #226373
                  MW
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                    @mw27036
                    Posted by John Pace on 21/02/2016 18:22:45:

                    Hi Michael

                    The patterns for both of the castings are made
                    from hardwood and plywood,in the photo 4
                    the ends are just turned circular sections joined
                    by two flat sides .Any gaps are just filled with car
                    body filler ,sanding sealer is used to fill the grain
                    then just wax polish.

                    John

                     

                    Wow, Does it cost much to get them cast, or do you do it yourself dare i ask?

                    Michael W

                     

                     

                    Edited By Michael Walters on 21/02/2016 20:44:04

                    #226414
                    John P
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                      @johnp77052

                      Hi Michael

                      The castings are done at home and like all
                      of these activities requires making the equipment
                      to be able to do this. I started doing my own castings
                      back in the early eighties ,i would think that now it
                      would fairly easy to make up the equipment needed
                      as there are many more suppliers around now.

                      Myfordboy has very good and instructional videos
                      on the castings that he does and are well worth watching.

                      J.W. Winter has all of the sundries required for
                      home casting.

                      John

                      #226445
                      MW
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                        @mw27036

                        Thanks for the info John, I am intrigued by casting yes, I wouldve thought it was quite hard to achieve the temperatures to melt the iron with only home equipment but i am obviously talking to one of the early casting masters

                        Michael W

                        #226491
                        John P
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                          @johnp77052

                          Hi Michael

                          There are a couple of photo's in album"Furnace".
                          This furnace was based on a book by David Gingery,
                          " Gas fired crucible furnace" in which it claimed to be
                          able to melt 20 lbs of cast iron in 45 minutes.
                          I have never melted iron only aluminium and brass
                          but have no doubt that it would easily melt iron.
                          The furnace was constructed around 1990 using MPK
                          bricks which cut easily and have some insulating properties.
                          Aluminium melts easily at 1/4 throttle ,i have never run it at
                          full throttle at just over 1/2 throttle a jet of flame is coming
                          out from the exhaust.The internal dimensions are 8 inch
                          diameter and 12 inches deep.Runs on propane on the left
                          of the photo is the centrifugal blower ,the gas enters the
                          flame tube and mixes and ignites just in the entrance
                          to the chamber .
                          See a recent post by Pat Jorgensen "Green Twin
                          Oscillator" there are some rather nicely done iron
                          castings.

                          John

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