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    old mart
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      Today was the first time I have ever used the Light Vertical with the head tilted. Amongst one of the job lots of inserts that I bought some time ago was a box with 8 Sandvik round turning inserts, 20mm diameter. I had a damaged 20mm parting off tool with a 6mm thread in the clamp end and it was to be modified to hold the round inserts. Sitting the tool on the rotary table with the 6mm hole centralised, a pocket was milled to match the diameter of the base of the insert, 18.42mm. I used a 16mm solid carbide end mill to mill the pocket to depth and then moved the X axis 0.576mm and rotated the table to get the base diameter. The insert sides are 7 degrees so the mill head was tilted that ammount to make the pocket fit the insert exactly. After tilting the head and setting the lowest edge of the end mill about 0.5mm above the pocket base, I noticed something strange, as if the head had moved out on the Y axis by about 1mm. The cutter was no longed centralised in the mouth of the pocket. The only way to correct this was by eye, I still do not know what had happened, the degrees on the head part of the ram were still in contact with the face with the lining up line. However, the insert fits perfectly in the socket, that was the main requirement.

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      old mart
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        #621946
        Brian Wood
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          I don't have a Senior mill with the vertical head, mine is the smaller Junior model for which such a feature is not available as far as I know

          It almost sounds as though the vertical head is not bolted back to the body and moved when it was in use. As this was your first use in this form it would pay to check that. Otherwise I am baffled.

          Regards Brian

          #621950
          old mart
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            I will be checking very carefully on Wednesday, I don't remember exactly how the pivot is engineered. The shaft must have moved even though the head was only moved the 7 degrees and there is no gap between the degree scale and the cursor mark. Fortunately I noticed something was not right before scrapping the work which took about 3 hours to get secured to my satisfaction. I will report my findings.

            I have found a picture of the main column without the head fitted, the rectangular block attached on the right hand side has the scribed zero line on its outer edge. There is a trace of a witness mark where the degree scale on the head support is normally in contact with the column._igp2996.jpg

            Edited By old mart on 20/11/2022 19:35:59

            #622370
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              I have had a good look at everything and have come to the conclusion that I must have been fooled by an optical illusion, Mike agrees with that conclusion. The job has the pocket just off centre as it is a destroyed parting off tool being repurposed and after careful inspection, there is no way that the Y axis could have moved. I have taken a picture of the tool and insert which fit together very well.

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