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    Steve Wan 1
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      @stevewan1

      Hi Folks

      Greetings to all

      I'm building a small table top mill with some thoughts from Cowells mill. I like the z axis feed screw vertically with a top handle rather the conventional position at the base with bevel gears. My mill has little room below the mill table. Hence, Cowells design is best to apply.

      Wonder anyone here can share photos of the assembly drawing or explain type of bushing and attachment design to the mill body and the table?

      Much appreciates ahead.

      Steve Wan

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      #14564
      Steve Wan 1
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        @stevewan1

        Cowells Milling/ Z axis design

        #598257
        bernard towers
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          @bernardtowers37738

          Its the same design on my shoreline maybe a look at their site might. There is also Taig or Peatol

          #598277
          Michael Gilligan
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            @michaelgilligan61133

            There are some useful-looking images here: **LINK**

            http://www.lathes.co.uk/cowells-miller/

            MichaelG.

            #598321
            Steve Wan 1
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              @stevewan1

              Hi Bernard, could you share some light over the assembly of the z axis of your Shoreline? Much appreciated here.

              #598322
              Steve Wan 1
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                @stevewan1

                Hi Michael, thanks for the link to Tony's http://www.lathes.co.uk. But I need to know parts here to join altogether.

                #598346
                bernard towers
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                  @bernardtowers37738

                  Suggest you trawl the sherline website

                  #598356
                  Michael Gilligan
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                    @michaelgilligan61133
                    Posted by Steve Wan 1 on 15/05/2022 16:43:58:

                    … But I need to know parts here to join altogether.

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                    I’m afraid you’ve lost me, Steve … this photo seems to illustrate it all rather well:

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                    68298c9d-0354-468c-b9a2-1af3e827ee1e.jpeg

                    [Credit : http://www.lathes.co.uk/cowells-miller/ ]

                    Unless you actually want full drawings of the Cowells components, I would have thought there was plenty of information there ^^^ to show the design principle.

                    MichaelG.

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                    P.S. __ from the Cowells brochure:

                    Vertical Travel – 164mm – 6.5”  

                    Feedscrew Pitches – 1mm

                    Edited By Michael Gilligan on 15/05/2022 23:18:30

                    #598361
                    Michael Gilligan
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                      @michaelgilligan61133

                      Another useful detail photo: **LINK**

                      http://www.cowells.com/Gallery/Vm16.jpg

                      MichaelG.

                      #598409
                      Steve Wan 1
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                        @stevewan1

                        Hi Michael

                        Thanks, all the parts here are crystal clear just that I'm figuring out where's the best place to put the compression bearings? Below the hand wheel or the plate joining the pillar?

                        Of course if anyone would scan me the assembly drawing would the great!

                        BTW Bernard I have mistaken your word for Shoreline with Sherline I have both Sherline mill and lathe for years, Yes, I could copy the design.

                        Steve W.

                        #598423
                        Baz
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                          @baz89810

                          What are compression bearings? I will take a wild guess that you mean thrust race, and that would go under the assembly that rotates.

                          #598448
                          Steve Wan 1
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                            @stevewan1

                            Hi Baz, Yes thrust bearing. Any thoughts where's the best place to put?

                            Below the handwheel or nearer the feed screws? You own a Cowells Mill?

                            Steve W.

                            #598453
                            John Haine
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                              @johnhaine32865

                              Steve, the clue is in the name, thrust bearing. What direction do the forces act when you operate the screw?

                              #598455
                              Michael Gilligan
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                                @michaelgilligan61133

                                Have a look at this, Steve : **LINK**

                                https://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/projects/MYF001/myford-cstb-mod.html

                                Now … use your imagination, and visualise it operating in the Z-axis

                                That would surely be a good basis for your design.

                                Note: I have never seen the actual Cowells unit dismantled.

                                MichaelG.

                                #598553
                                Phil H1
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                                  @philh196021

                                  Is a ball race strictly necessary? I would have thought that a plain, bronze washer would have been adequate?

                                  Phil H

                                  #598568
                                  Steve Wan 1
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                                    @stevewan1

                                    Hi John, Michael and Phil, thanks for the feedbacks

                                    Yes, I think the best spot for thrust bearing is next to the handle where the turning load is at most. Yes, also a bronze washer can be used. Infact, one of my washer is a thick PVC and has been in use for years.

                                    Steve W.

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