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  • #462660
    Pete.
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      @pete-2

      I've been looking for one of these to restore for a while, lots in the US normally up for sale, I'm searching 'sensitive drill press' but not finding any results, am I not not search the correct thing? The little sensitive drills normally used by jewellers etc, not to be confusing with really modern Chinese drills.

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      #13828
      Pete.
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        @pete-2
        #462665
        Nigel Graham 2
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          @nigelgraham2

          Have you tried variants on the name, such as 'sensitive drilling machine', or 'sensitive bench drill'?

          Just a thought….

          #462666
          Bob Stevenson
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            @bobstevenson13909
            #462672
            DC31k
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              @dc31k

              Possibly 'high speed' drill might help. The 'press' in your search term may be hindering you. Could you post a link to a picture of a typical one as that may help us to suggest more. When you say 'skeletonised', it makes me think of Bradson-style drills which may not be what you want.

              #462674
              Michael Gilligan
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                @michaelgilligan61133

                Pete

                Is this the style of machine you are looking to restore ?

                **LINK**

                https://www.sarikhobbies.com/product/high-speed-drilling-machine-we2/?v=79cba1185463

                MichaelG.

                #462680
                Steve Crow
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                  @stevecrow46066

                  Hi Pete

                  Do you mean like this one?

                  champion1.jpg

                  This is a drawing of my Champion No1. Made in England from the 30's to the 50's. They come up on ebay occasionally, prices vary hugely according to condition. The rear pulleys were missing on mine so I made my own. The handle isn't shown on this drawing.

                  Steve

                  Edited By Steve Crow on 06/04/2020 09:06:27

                  #462761
                  Nicholas Farr
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                    @nicholasfarr14254

                    Hi Pete, I think this is the Piller Tool what Bob has referred too. Some years ago, I revamped my fathers Bonds Maximus drill, which stands about 500mm high an has a 100mm round table, but it doesn't swivel like the one show in Steve's drawing but is a similar design.

                    drill.jpg

                    You can see it in the background in the photo below, where it was driven by his line shafting.

                    shed.jpg

                    I have a different one that wasn't originally a sensitive one, but I converted it to a sensitive balanced one for drilling and tapping.

                    drill 02.jpg

                    I bought it at a Steam Engine Rally many years ago, which is shown in the next photo as it was then.

                    drill 03.jpg

                    This conversion was done with virtually used materials, the motor came from an old electric typewriter. This drill stands about 560mm high and has a 110mm round table and is a fair bit heavier than the Bonds one.

                    Regards Nick.

                    Edited By Nicholas Farr on 06/04/2020 13:42:57

                    #462769
                    IanT
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                      @iant

                      I like the 'straight' belt drive you've arranged there Nicholas – I'm thinking of converting my Cowells to something similar – using 90 degree drive-pulleys seems to come with a lot of belt slap.

                      Regards,

                      IanT

                      #462813
                      Steve Crow
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                        @stevecrow46066

                        Ebay link

                        Words fail me.

                        #462814
                        Steve Crow
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                          @stevecrow46066

                          Here is one similar to Nicholas's first pictures – Link.

                          #462819
                          Nicholas Farr
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                            @nicholasfarr14254

                            Hi Steve, yes it is the same model, first time I've ever seen a second one, looks as is it need a complete strip down and clean, plus a drop or two of paint and a proper base and attention to the electrics.

                            Regards Nick.

                            #462836
                            Plasma
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                              @plasma

                              There is a champion no 2 on ebay at the moment but £225 looks a bit dear to me. Plus it's in lovely condition.

                              Are they called camel back pillar drills rather than skeleton type?

                              Not a lot of work to make one from scratch to be honest.

                              Mick

                              #462875
                              Pete.
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                                @pete-2

                                Michael, Steve, yes that's the general gist of what I'm looking for, the older the better.

                                #462877
                                Pete.
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                                  @pete-2

                                  Nick, that's the sort of thing, doesn't need to be a 'sensitive drill' I don't need it to use, just want an old one as a restoration project.

                                  #462878
                                  Pete.
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                                    @pete-2

                                    Plasma, I saw the champion no2 on ebay, looks nice, bit bigger than wanted, but looks like it'll be a nice drill for someone, I'd happily pay the asking price for that condition.

                                    #462879
                                    Pete.
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                                      @pete-2

                                      Nigel, I've tried search

                                      Vintage small drill, small bench drill, small drill Press, precision drill Press, and just drill with search results limited to used items, I think I've tried numerous other search terms that I can't remember now.

                                      #462880
                                      Pete.
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                                        @pete-2

                                        Dc33, I had a look at bradsons, they seem to be hand cranked, so not what looking for, but some of them are nice, thanks

                                        #462881
                                        Pete.
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                                          @pete-2
                                          Posted by Michael Gilligan on 06/04/2020 07:43:19:

                                          Pete

                                          Is this the style of machine you are looking to restore ?

                                          **LINK**

                                          https://www.sarikhobbies.com/product/high-speed-drilling-machine-we2/?v=79cba1185463

                                          MichaelG.

                                          The plans look good, as I don't need it practically, I just want something old for a rest project, interesting for future reference though, thanks.

                                          #462908
                                          oldvelo
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                                            @oldvelo
                                            Posted by Steve Crow on 06/04/2020 18:26:41:

                                            Ebay link

                                            Words fail me.

                                            Looks like a Black & Decker dril press. I doubt if you will find a hand drill to fit. My sister in law worked for B & D in the 50's on testing drills off the production line 40 hours of use and failure were very common.

                                            #462929
                                            Circlip
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                                              @circlip

                                              And the best parts to rescue from the B&D press are the handle and the spring.

                                               

                                              Regards Ian.

                                              Edited By Circlip on 07/04/2020 10:09:43

                                              #462931
                                              Martin Connelly
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                                                @martinconnelly55370

                                                Oldvelo, part of my job when I worked was to purchase the tools for the shop floor including hand drills. We were constantly being asked why the drills we bought cost 5 to 6 times more than the B&D and their clones in DIY stores. Our reply was always "value for money" . The DIY drills would have had to be treated as consumables due to the short life they would have had.

                                                Martin C

                                                #462950
                                                Nicholas Farr
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                                                  @nicholasfarr14254

                                                  Hi, yes the drill stand in the ebay link looks like the B&D SD0506 which would hold their larger heavy duty drills, and it looks as if the base was broken and been welded and L/H part that holds the chuck end of the drill looks as that has broken off and is missing. The DIY B&D's were just that and were subject to less than a continuous duty cycle, where as with the likes of Wolf were aimed more towards industrial use, an of course were more expensive.

                                                  This DIY milling head I made, uses a motor from a B&D lawn mower that I had given me, and it had a hard life on my rough terrain grassed area. The frame of the mower rusted away and the wheels fell off, but the motor still woks OK, I've coupled it to a two speed gear box from a B&D drill and put the single speed gear box on the drill, which is years old and is still working fine.

                                                  cimg2785.jpg

                                                  B&D DIY drills were not that bad and were in a budget bracket that my father could afford back in the late sixties, so no real difference than budget stuff these days.

                                                  Just to say I have never had any connection with Black & Decker or any company associated with them.

                                                  Regards Nick.

                                                  #463149
                                                  Pete.
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                                                    @pete-2

                                                    Edited By Pete. on 08/04/2020 00:34:19

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                                                    Pete.
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                                                      @pete-2

                                                      Why hasn't it put the video up? I clicked on the YouTube symbol and added the link?

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