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1 January 2010 at 16:40 #11636
Redpiperbob
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1 January 2010 at 16:40 #46884
Redpiperbob
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Hello all

Could someone help me out please. I am just starting to build the G H Thomas Pilllartool. In the book Workshop techniques he states that the brass clamp pads should be parted off at 1.5″ and yet the longest in the plans is 3/4″

Am I missing something or should I just past off at a tad over 3/4″ and 11/16″. It seems a bit wasteful of the brass. (Thats my Scrooge side coming out.).

Any help will be gratefully appreciated.

Bob
1 January 2010 at 17:29 #46889
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I dont know the UPT, and whether you are working form plans or his book. So I apologise for Grannies in advance.

Having built his VDH, the procedure for the clamps is as follows.

1. Turn the brass clamps to long size – see drawing for depth of hole .

2 Mark and drill the clamp holes.

3 Insert clamp blanks and lock down – drawing will show a screw hole between the pair of clamps,which is later blocked off for pulling a locking bar down – make from scrap. Or use a g cramp(s) if that suits.

4. Then bore the hole with clamps installed – you will take out the 1/2 moons in the clamps and have them all to size in one move.

5 Extract clamps, part off halves to length and insert counterbores and screw threads in appropriate halves.

6. Centre pop for identification because the clamps are “holed”. (Like only fit that hole)

DON’T try to do the bore first and then judge the cutouts in the clamps because you will never get it right, or in the right place. GHT’s way you have a perfect fit, and a guarantee that all will line up when a clamp is bottomed in its hole.

Edited By meyrick griffith-jones on 01/01/2010 17:30:40

Edited By meyrick griffith-jones on 01/01/2010 17:32:22
1 January 2010 at 18:37 #46894
Redpiperbob
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Hi Meyrick

Thanks for the resonse I also have built the VDH but the pads on the pillartool are different as they only go half way thourgh the arm and base castingsthe depth of the counterbore to take the pads is 3/4″ and 11/16″ so I thought if I make them that size and when I have drilled the bores I can take them back out and then file a small amount of the bottom of the pads to make them grip the shafts that run though the bores. I can scan the pics but I dont think I should put them on the site (Copyright).

Bob
1 January 2010 at 19:41 #46899
mgj
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Bob – I do apologise.

The only comment I could fairly make is to say the GHT wasn’t known for errors on his drawings.

Having said that, looking at Dividing and Graduating (out of print now – I think its been incorporated into a bigger volume) there are drawings of part of a UPT showing the clamps on the inboard side of the column and staking head. Using I imagine the VDH type. of clamp.

However, the photo shows a UPT with the clamp bosses on the outside, using just a split in the bracket.

So perhaps you pays your money and….. depending on which castings you have?
1 January 2010 at 20:23 #46903
John Haine
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When I do cotters I make both halves separate (for a split cotter) and clamp then in their bore with a thin washer in between, then bore the main hole for the thing they’re clamping. Then you don’t have to part the cotters, just remove the washer. For a single cotter put the washer at the bottom of the hole.
2 January 2010 at 08:18 #46908
Redpiperbob
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Hi All

Thanks for the replies I thought I would show you the way GHT has draw the pads in his Workshop Techniques book.

one piture is woth a thousand words. I hope this expliains better what I mean

Thanks Bob
2 January 2010 at 10:14 #46909
David Clark 13
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Hi There

In the pillar tool book the sizes are 11/16 and 3/4in. long.

You machine them with the bores then remove them and turn 1/4in. off the length.

I would use 1/4 spacers and 7/16 and 1/2 in. long slugs then throw the 1/4 ones away.

regards david

Edited By David Clark 1 on 02/01/2010 10:15:32
2 January 2010 at 10:22 #46910
Redpiperbob
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Hi David

Thank you for the reply. I am going to do them as your first suggestion.

soon find out just going to start now.

How are you enjoying the snow up here.

Bob
2 January 2010 at 10:48 #46911
David Clark 13
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Hi There

Very little snow.

Bit of ice left but nice blue skies.

Bit too far north for much snow.

regards David
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