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23 September 2009 at 19:42 #43758
Richard Still
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Does anyone have any experience of designing / building / using a motorised filing machine? I’ve not been able to track down any drawings but would like to have a go at making such a tool. There is one on the cover of M E Workshop this month. The main use would be in crossing out wheels for clock making.
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23 September 2009 at 19:42 #11604
Richard Still
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23 September 2009 at 20:30 #43762
JasonB
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Hemmingway do one that is powered by a lathe but you should be able to fit a separate motor

Jason
23 September 2009 at 20:40 #43765
David Clark 13
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Hi There

I beleive there is a plan in the myhobbystore range.

regards david
24 September 2009 at 00:09 #43773
russell
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Funny you should ask, i’ve been thinking about one as well.

there were some plans published in ‘popular mechanics’, march 1957. Google books has it online: Filing Machine – a search on google books might find others.

regards

russell
24 September 2009 at 00:43 #43776
Michael Ellis 1
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Andy Lofquist of Metal Lathe Accessories (Google it) has a very nice free standing filing machine. When he wrote up several of his kits in ME 20 or more years ago, he had a contact person in England but I haven’t seen any recent adverts. When I spoke to him in June he had just sent several casting kits to the UK so that may be how it is handled these days.

As a satisfied customer I can say that his castings are first class.

ellis
24 September 2009 at 08:48 #43780
Peter Bell
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Made a filing machine from the Metal Lathe Accessories kit and it works very well. Fairly easy to make, I have added some oil seals as a precauition. Good instructions and information from Andy Lofquist about how to make the files needed. Also intended to use it for crossing out clock wheels but so far have only used it to form an internal square for a machine handle when it was really easy to make a good fit.
24 September 2009 at 11:52 #43786
Circlip
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Have a bash with this link Richard, but you need to set aside about a month to quickly scan through.

Link

Regards Ian.

Edited By David Clark 1 on 16/09/2010 07:51:47
29 September 2009 at 00:42 #43872
russell
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July 56 ME has part 2 of a filing machine, havent had a chance to look for part 1 yet, presumably either late june or early july.

regards

russell
29 September 2009 at 14:17 #43883
Peter G. Shaw
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Hi,

MEW4, MEW 12 & WSP31 (Useful Workshop Tools/Stan Bray) all caontain details of filing machines.

Regards,

Peter G. Shaw
10 October 2009 at 02:01 #44079
Lawrence Keating
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Martin Model and Pattern Making in the USA (http://www.martinmodel.com/) sell a set of castings and plans for a Die Filer (or Filing Machine). Click on the Machine Tools link and scroll down to the 3rd item. This is a smaller and some what simpler version of what is offered thru Metal Lathe Accessories. I inquired about the MLA version, but found out it is too big to machine on my Myford. Andy (the owner) said even a 9″ Southbend will barely handle it.

They also sell castings for the Quorn and GHT’s Universal Pillar Tool. I have the Die Filer and UPT castings on order right now. Hope to have them in hand next week.
10 October 2009 at 17:30 #44087
Richard Still
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Thanks to all the helpful engineers how helped with this.

I think I’ll have a go at Stan Bray’s design – it doesn’t need castings and will be easy to modify depending on what materials I have to hand.

Very best wishes to all of you.

Richard
14 December 2009 at 11:15 #46191
Charles
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The die filer on the cover OF MEW 155 was made by me. It was made from a set of castings in aluminium which is the preferred material as one has been made locally in cast iron and the extra reciprocating weight had it leaping about like a kangaroo. If anyone wants I can supply a crude sketch showing the essential dimensions and photos of the patterns used.
15 December 2009 at 10:33 #46221
David Clark 13
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Hi There

Harold Hall has designed and built a die filing machine and artilceswith full drawings

will appear early in the New Year in MEW.

regards David
13 September 2010 at 16:39 #55580
Howard Jones
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Charlie

ockleshaw’s sketch wasnt crude. we both built from it successfully.

if I was to build another die filing machine I’d build the one described in Australian Model Engineer sept-oct 2010 (the current magazine). the renford style machine is built from steel sections and is impressively robust. the entire description is in the one magazine.

(sorry to be a phillistine David but ME was late in the shops. you’d be impressed by the design though)
14 September 2010 at 11:28 #55616
Axel Bentell
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Posted by Charles on 14/12/2009 11:15:02:
The die filer on the cover OF MEW 155 was made by me. It was made from a set of castings in aluminium which is the preferred material as one has been made locally in cast iron and the extra reciprocating weight had it leaping about like a kangaroo. If anyone wants I can supply a crude sketch showing the essential dimensions and photos of the patterns used.

Best design I´ve seen so far, it really lit my “tool lust” that one!
15 September 2010 at 18:47 #55684
Howard Jones
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axel

this is the sketch charlie was referring to.

I’ll visit him tomorrow and we’ll post some photos of the two moulding patterns.

basically if you sit the two arms down on top of the body you have the casting shape of the main body. these arms are sawn off the casting and then machined.

the other casting is for the table.

they are a copy of a swiss filing machine in the early 1900’s.

Howard
15 September 2010 at 20:20 #55689
Axel Bentell
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@axelbentell
Thanks thats great to see! I´ll make that one day for sure! I just met someone who can melt tons of metal at the time in his furnaces, so maybe I can make a scaled up model and have it as a sculpture in the garden…life is full of decisions!
15 September 2010 at 22:59 #55704
Versaboss
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Circlip, would you please be so kind and shorten your Google link, so that we all can read the complete text of the postings?!?

Greetings, Hansrudolf
16 September 2010 at 04:30 #55712
Charles
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Here are photos of the pattern

Here is the pattern split apart
16 September 2010 at 06:34 #55713
Axel Bentell
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I would reccomend people to get a sample or look in the online version of the Brownell´s catalog, its an American gunsmith suplier; they have long narrown files with different cuts. Such files wouldl be ideal for making die filer files out of!

Also, yesterday I recieved a tool catalog from 1961, I collect such items. In it were a pic of a filing machine that had a 260mm filing disk (steel) with an edge of maybe 50mm depth, it had variable speed around 100-300 rpm. Would be a nice thing to have for big stuff!

And to digress terribly, the price of the top of the line Myford S7 was 3000SEK, today the same is 115,000SEK (Connoseur Long Bed). A calulator told me the equal value of 3000SEK is 31.598SEK today (£2885)

Edited By Axel on 16/09/2010 06:35:09
16 September 2010 at 12:43 #55727
Ian S C
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Not really relevant, but 20 odd yrs ago I saw a filing machine of a different type, it had a flexable bandwith short sections of file attached, it resembled a band-saw, it was back when a lot of companies were closing, and selling off the machinery (I was looking for a lathe). Ian S C
17 September 2010 at 12:25 #55786
Axel Bentell
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Yes, Ive read about those, and been looking if such bands are still made, but found none. A diamond inpregnated band would be good for some things I belive!
17 September 2010 at 21:45 #55818
Sub Mandrel
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A belt linishing machine?

Neil
18 September 2010 at 07:13 #55831
Axel Bentell
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@axelbentell
Not as accurate in corners…
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