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    Peter Simpson 3
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      Looking to roll a 5" gauge copper boiler !/8" thick copper plate. What rollers would be suitable ? There load of rollers on the Bay. but they only go up to 1.2 mm thickness

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      Peter Simpson 3
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        Andrew Tinsley
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          @andrewtinsley63637

          You don't need rolls. I simply make a former and bend the sheet around it. You will need to keep annealing the sheet between bends as it will work harden. Fully annealed copper is surprisingly soft and bendable.

          Andrew.

          #590753
          noel shelley
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            @noelshelley55608

            BIG ish ones ! Soft hammer and a round wooden block, anneal as needed ! Easy way would be to pop round to a friendly small engineering works and offer beer tokens, may be a lunchtime job ? Or copper tube at 3mm wall ? Good luck. Noel

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            Nick Clarke 3
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              @nickclarke3

              Has your local ME society got some larger bending rolls? – mine has. Where are you approximately in the country?

              #590777
              Dave Halford
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                @davehalford22513

                Blackgates do 5" copper tube in 10G.

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                duncan webster 1
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                  @duncanwebster1

                  LBSC recommended bending boiler shell round a downspout. I don't! I'd take up Noel's suggestion, one anneal will get you from flat to round at 5" diameter. However, if you're aiming for the usual 80-100 psi working, you can get away with 13g for a round shell, more difficult if the back end is opened out for the firebox outer wrapper. If you go down this route take your boiler inspector along with you

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                  Speedy Builder5
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                    @speedybuilder5

                    If you are looking for rollers, make sure the are "slip rollers" so you can slip your tube off the end once rolled !

                    #591027
                    Paul Lousick
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                      @paullousick59116

                      Copper sheet is expensive, especially if you stuff it up and have to buy a second sheet. A set of slip rolls is also expensive and a costly ornament if you do not have another use for them.

                      For a one-off project, best to take the plate to a local engineering business.

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                      Peter Simpson 3
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                        @petersimpson3

                        After phoning numerous engineering companies, non of which were remotely interested in doing the work. I have two choices.

                        Buy flat 3mm sheet and form it round a 4" tube.

                        Buy 5" diameter 10 SWG tube a cut the relevant triangle out to form the the 4.5" diameter smoke box end.

                        Sheet is cheaper but tube may be easier.. What the thoughts of the experts ?

                        #591838
                        Speedy Builder5
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                          @speedybuilder5

                          I am surprised that (Unless Peter has has a personal message) nobody here has offered to roll Peter's barrel.

                          Bob

                          #591839
                          JasonB
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                            Maybe not many members with large enough rolls, and from his latest post looks like it would really want rolls that can do tapers

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                            Simon Collier
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                              I’ve rolled 3 mm copper using large rolls donated to the club. I had to keep annealing it with my 2944 burner. Rolled to 6-1/4” with slight taper. The member who donated them moved away and some time later they vanished. He undonated them! Hardly anyone is going to have rolls big enough. I suggest making a former from stacked plywood disks. With multiple annealings and using hands, hammers and band clamps, it can be done. Buying 5” tube would be so much easier.

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                              duncan webster 1
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                                If OP reveals where he is based we might be able to suggest firms we know of

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