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    BASS 666
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      @bass666

      this is some of the stuff that came with my lathe i know what most of it is and i will keep some of it but i also know i will want to sell some of it if i can .. i don't think i will ever use the screw cutting gearbox on the lathe so i suppose i don't need any of the gears .. i will keep the chuck and myford tools so my question is are the other bits and bobs sellable ? most of the stuff has not been used and has light surface rust that comes off easy enough when you clean it ..

      there is loads more the guy gave me and i will show you guys soon but i just wanted to gauge if any of this stuff is worth anything ? the lathe itself is in really good nick it was just full of oil and swarf but i stripped it and cleaned and put fresh oil on everything i also changed the 4 belts it's running like a clock …

      some input would be appreciated guys .. thanks ..

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      #11130
      BASS 666
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        @bass666
        #587189
        Jon Lawes
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          @jonlawes51698

          You know your own needs better than anyone, but I would suggest you seriously consider keeping hold of the gears and the four jaw; I reckon you may find you need them sooner than you think. Losing the ability to screwcut really reduces the amount of projects you can get to grips with. I didn't think I'd do much but I reckon I do it every couple of months or so now.

          The four jaw is invaluable for holding square or odd shaped stock, or even just getting round objects properly true (something that a 3 jaw is not brilliant at). That may not be an issue right now, but who knows what little jobs may lurk on the horizon….

          #587191
          Martin Johnson 1
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            @martinjohnson1

            +1 for keep the lot. It's all useful stuff and would cost a lot to re purchase later.

            Martin

            #587192
            Former Member
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              @formermember12892

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              #587193
              larry phelan 1
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                @larryphelan1

                Like others, I think you would be unwise to get rid of any of that stuff.

                It wont eat anything and it might be better to be looking at it than for it !

                Screw cutting is one thing a lathe is great for [think about those odd sized threads LH or RH you might need to cut, sometime ]

                Make haste SLOWLY !!!devil

                #587194
                bernard towers
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                  @bernardtowers37738

                  + 1 for that if you haven’t got it you can’t use it and as for changewheels NEVER part with them!

                  #587196
                  Dalboy
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                    @dalboy

                    Agree with the above better to have than need it. You just never know when you may need them.

                    Another side to this is if in the future you need to sell the lathe having all of the bits will be a great selling point

                    #587197
                    JA
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                      @ja

                      Everything there I would consider as invaluable, absolutely necessary. However if you sold any of it you won't get very much money.

                      JA

                      #587199
                      Mike Poole
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                        @mikepoole82104

                        I would not part the metric conversion set from the gearbox even if you think it unlikely you will use it. The 4jaw is a definite keeper as it is the most versatile chuck and can hold any shape of stock material and many irregular castings, each jaw is reversible independently which can be useful sometimes. Unless you would rather use the cash raised for other purposes the better a lathe is equipped the more versatile it becomes. If you dispose of the equipment you regard as surplus then it will be near certain a job will come along that needs it. I have to fight my inner hoarder but I would keep it all.

                        Mike

                        #587202
                        Bazyle
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                          @bazyle

                          It looks like you have a quick change gearbox so most of the extra gears are not essential but you need to check the metric conversion set and appropriate documentation to determine what is needed wo cover ALL metric and imperial threads, and BA. Then the excess gears can be sold.
                          it looks like the item attached to the vertical slide may be a gear cutter relieving tool so you are unlikely to use it and can sell it.
                          While I would like to suggest that if you don't need a capable lathe you sell it as a nice package and just get one of the many unequipped lathes on ebay it would probably just be bought by a garage trader to asset strip.

                          #587203
                          bernard towers
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                            @bernardtowers37738

                            The item attached to the vertical slide is a Changewheel dividing unit which is why you do not get rid of changewheels!!!

                            #587213
                            Nick Clarke 3
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                              @nickclarke3

                              Like everyone else I would say keep it – with the possible exception of the boring bars – there are more modern equivalents available – but as you will not get much for them I would not think it is worth selling them. Ebay fees and postage would zap any profit.

                              The Metric conversion set is essential as many more things are now metric that when your lathe was new.

                              The change gears are useful for fine feeds as well as screwcutting.

                              As to selling the lathe and getting another – yours is the desirable Tri-Lever model and I would keep that too.

                              #587214
                              Rik Shaw
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                                @rikshaw

                                I'd keep the lot unless you are desperate – why? Because all the extras make the lathe more valuable when you come to sell it. You don't intend selling it? Neither did I with my first one fifteen years ago but I am on my fourth right now.

                                Rik

                                #587221
                                BASS 666
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                                  @bass666

                                  thanks for all the replies guys and if i made out i was selling the lathe then i worded it wrong .. i have just bought the lathe and it's defo a keeper … i just know in my heart of hearts i will not be using the lathe for screw cutting as most of my work is to do with motorcycles and i will be making the tools for threading on the lathe anyway .. all my stuff is metric and the biggest thread i use is 12mm so i will just make the die holder as well as use the taps on the lathe also …

                                  i will take your advice and keep it all it's just i thought it might be worth a few quid and someone on here would need it … thanks again guys it's appreciated …

                                  #587226
                                  Dave Halford
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                                    @davehalford22513

                                    If you sell the gearbox then the leadscrew will have no support at that end and you will not be able to drive the cutting tools under power either, which makes a good finish harder to achieve.

                                     

                                    Edited By Dave Halford on 25/02/2022 16:43:43

                                    #587228
                                    BASS 666
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                                      @bass666
                                      Posted by Dave Halford on 25/02/2022 16:42:33:

                                      If you sell the gearbox then the leadscrew will have no support at that end and you will not be able to drive the cutting tools under power either, which makes a good finish harder to achieve.

                                      Edited By Dave Halford on 25/02/2022 16:43:43

                                      i didn't say i was selling the gearbox ???????? i said i was keeping the lathe and wanted to know if any of the other stuff was sellable as i wont be using the lathe for screw cutting …. if i worded it wrong then my apologies …

                                      #587231
                                      bernard towers
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                                        @bernardtowers37738

                                        BASS 66 nearly all the fasteners I make are for Pre 30s bikes and I screwcut most of them much better looking totally concentric with plain sections etc.

                                        #590848
                                        BASS 666
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                                          @bass666

                                          some more stuff that came with my lathe … i had a few inquiries about the first lot i showed and sold a few things so if you have any interest let me know .. thanks guys …sdc12151.jpgsdc12152.jpgsdc12153.jpgsdc12154.jpgsdc12155.jpgsdc12156.jpgsdc12157.jpgsdc12158.jpgsdc12159.jpgsdc12160.jpgsdc12161.jpgsdc12162.jpgsdc12163.jpgsdc12164.jpgsdc12165.jpgsdc12166.jpgsdc12167.jpgsdc12168.jpg

                                          #590876
                                          Circlip
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                                            @circlip

                                            After disposing of what you regard to be superfluous, just think of the poor guy that buys your lathe when you've curled your toes up and advertises "Has anyone got a set of screw cutting gears for a – – – – – "

                                            Regards Ian.

                                            #590879
                                            Tony Pratt 1
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                                              @tonypratt1
                                              Posted by Circlip on 21/03/2022 09:03:28:

                                              After disposing of what you regard to be superfluous, just think of the poor guy that buys your lathe when you've curled your toes up and advertises "Has anyone got a set of screw cutting gears for a – – – – – "

                                              Regards Ian.

                                              The OP has got a QC gearbox so most of the change gears are surplus to requirements so they can be sold on.

                                              Tony

                                              #590880
                                              BASS 666
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                                                @bass666
                                                Posted by Circlip on 21/03/2022 09:03:28:

                                                After disposing of what you regard to be superfluous, just think of the poor guy that buys your lathe when you've curled your toes up and advertises "Has anyone got a set of screw cutting gears for a – – – – – "

                                                Regards Ian.

                                                when i'm dead i won't care about who buys my lathe and what he gets with it .. i have already spent nearly £1000 on tooling and other stuff and i'm not finished yet so whoever buys it is getting a good set up ….

                                                #590882
                                                Andrew Tinsley
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                                                  @andrewtinsley63637

                                                  This is not intended to be unkind, but it seems you know very little about lathework. Most of the kit you have listed is very useful stuff. I would suggest you defer selling anything, until you have learned to use the lathe and have some experience under your belt.

                                                  At that stage you will be able to value the items from your newly gained experience, as being useful / non useful. You can then dispose of the stuff that you know you are not going to use. You are lucky to have a fully kitted out lathe to begin with. My first Myford came with nothing but the essentials and it cost me a small fortune to equip it. If you sell the "so called surplus kit" now. You will probably regret it in the future.

                                                  Andrew.

                                                  #590887
                                                  Hopper
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                                                    @hopper

                                                    ^^^^^^ This.

                                                    Those loose gears would appear to go with this LH Sparey style dividing head that is in your album.

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                                                    That is a very very useful piece of kit for everything from gear cutting to making hexagon heads on bolts to drilling holes in precision circles and much much more. It will cost a bundle of beer coupons to buy a modern replacement dividing head. But this one will not sell for much because nobody knows what this old type is anymore. That large collection of oddball gears would be used on this to create different ratios to be used in conjunction with that spring plunger on the right to index many many different graduations. That's why some of those gears have the large hole in the middle to fit the spindle shown in this pic.

                                                    Most of those loose gears in your pics are not genuine original Myford gears so probably will sell for peanuts. They may not even be the correct DP ("tooth size"  ) to mesh with Myford gears. Can't tell from the pics. They would be more useful to you for dividing purposes once you learn how to use your lathe at an intermediate level.

                                                    The vertical slide that the dividing head is bolted to in the pic is worth keeping too. Very useful for doing small milling jobs in the lathe. I use mine all the time. In fact I have two of them, this type and the swivel type.

                                                    Edited By Hopper on 21/03/2022 11:09:58

                                                    #590891
                                                    SillyOldDuffer
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                                                      @sillyoldduffer
                                                      Posted by Andrew Tinsley on 21/03/2022 10:19:39:

                                                      This is not intended to be unkind, but it seems you know very little about lathework. Most of the kit you have listed is very useful stuff. I would suggest you defer selling anything, until you have learned to use the lathe and have some experience under your belt.

                                                      At that stage you will be able to value the items from your newly gained experience, as being useful / non useful. You can then dispose of the stuff that you know you are not going to use. You are lucky to have a fully kitted out lathe to begin with. My first Myford came with nothing but the essentials and it cost me a small fortune to equip it. If you sell the "so called surplus kit" now. You will probably regret it in the future.

                                                      Andrew.

                                                      +1 to Andrew's advice. Slow down. At this stage of the game BASS has a bunch of mysterious accessories and no idea whether they're useful to him or not!

                                                      My advice is benefit from the experience of other Model Engineers. We know when new owners get stuck into using lathes in anger, they usually discover, step by step, a long list of needs beyond the obvious. Then they have to acquire the necessary accessories, and it's often painfully slow and expensive.

                                                      BASS has the opposite problem – a complete outfit put together over the years by someone else. Tempting to sell the unwanted bits and pieces, but no-one knows what's unwanted yet. And if stuff is sold on willy-nilly, it's likely to be a while before the mistake is understood. One of the worst things to happen in a workshop is finding hard to find gear should never have been disposed of. The realisation is remarkably unpleasant!

                                                      The best person to decide what to keep is BASS, but not today. Next year's BASS will have a much better idea of what should be kept. Experience using the lathe will change his opinions!

                                                      There's another game. If BASS has no intention of using the lathe and just wants to make a profit, then the best way of maximising the take is to separate everything out and sell it part by part on an auction site (like ebay). I advise BASS not to tell the forum if he's doing that : profiteering is very unpopular in the Model Engineering community!

                                                      Dave

                                                      Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 21/03/2022 11:04:34

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