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  • #585796
    colin hamilton
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      So the 40 is the tpi but what is the 5? And where I the UK can I buy a small quantity that dint charge a fortune for shipping? Thanks Colin

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      colin hamilton
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        #585797
        JasonB
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          It's a UNC thread and below 1/4" they use numbers rather than diameter much like wood screws 

          What sort of head are you after?

          Edited By JasonB on 16/02/2022 20:30:12

          #585798
          Former Member
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            #585799
            Mick Dobson
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              It has diameter 0.125". Often used in US designs.

              **LINK**

              #585879
              colin hamilton
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                @colinhamilton16803

                Thanks everyone. So below 1/4" they change from and actual dimension to just a number very helpful!!

                The head type doesn't matter. I'm about to strip the head of my bridgeport mill. There is part of the quill mechanism which is pulled out after you screw a 5-40 machine screw into it.

                #585885
                Michael Gilligan
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                  Posted by colin hamilton on 17/02/2022 12:48:05:

                  […]

                  So below 1/4" they change from and actual dimension to just a number very helpful!!

                  .

                  Presumably sarcasm … but why the need ?

                  MichaelG.

                  #585888
                  Robert Butler
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                    Michael

                    Not sure it was "sarcasm" or just helpful to know.

                    Robert Butler

                    #585894
                    colin hamilton
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                      @colinhamilton16803

                      Sarcasm? A bit. Just strikes me as a bit odd they would change the convention. Why not stick with a single system of categorisation?

                      And what us wrong with a bit of sarcasm.

                      #585896
                      Anonymous
                        Posted by colin hamilton on 17/02/2022 14:01:59:

                        ….what us wrong with a bit of sarcasm.

                        It can rebound when the originator is wrong. smile

                        For unified threads below 1/4" the number is related to OD, for numbers from 0 to 12:

                        OD = thread_number x 0.013 + 0.06

                        Andrew

                        #585906
                        Clive Foster
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                          I guess switching to numbers avoids silly complicated fractions on smaller sizes.

                          Same reason for BA being numbered I guess.

                          Naming and identification systems need to be clear and not easily mis-understood. Not slaves to theoretical rules.

                          Metric way is nicely tied to rules but in practice it can be less than clear. Decimal points are easily missed or mis-read.

                          Simple M for standard metric coarse then M diameter … x … pitch for fine or constant pitch switches horses in a bad, confusing way.

                          Should have followed the old American convention of NC, NF, NS diameter … x … tpi so MC diameter for standard coarse, MF for standard fine and MS diameter … x … pitch for anything non standard such as the various permitted constant pitch sizes.

                          Much clearer and its obvious when you have a weird one to deal with.

                          Clive

                          #585926
                          John Purdy
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                            Colin

                            The UNC/UNF series of machine screws run from 0 to 14. #0 is defined as .060" major dia. and each number up increases in major dia. by .013", so #1 is .073", #2 is .086" etc., hence #5 is .125" as said above. Preferred sizes are 0. thru 6, 8, 10, and 12. There is also a series that runs down in size following the same .013" rule to #0000. Can't help with where to get them over there as I live on the other side of the pond. I make my own hex headed ones.

                            John

                            Edited By John Purdy on 17/02/2022 17:36:53

                            #585931
                            Tony Pratt 1
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                              Several UK suppliers come up on Google, I don't know your exact requirements.

                              Tony

                              #585932
                              JasonB
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                                @jasonb

                                For small amounts try Model fixings, they have Phillips pan heads or Allen head in #5-40

                                #585936
                                Mick Dobson
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                                  Colin,

                                  if you have trouble sourcing the 5-40 fasteners, there is also the 1/8" x 40 TPI ME (Model Engineer) thread, if this could be incorporated in your application. The ME threads use 55 degrees thread angle rather than the 60 degrees in the case of UNC.

                                  #585951
                                  noel shelley
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                                    @noelshelley55608

                                    1/8" whitworth is 40 tpi but 55* though it may fit at this size. Good luck. Noel.

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                                    Former Member
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                                      #585956
                                      JasonB
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                                        @jasonb

                                        It was but I did not want to send the OP there if he had specific head requirements so asked what was needed first.

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                                          #586006
                                          colin hamilton
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                                            @colinhamilton16803

                                            Thanks everyone.

                                            Naming convention properly understood and fasteners ordered from Model Fixings.

                                            Cheers Colin

                                            #586009
                                            Joe McKean
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                                              Always worthwhile having a look at Accu

                                              #586022
                                              Martin Connelly
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                                                This is where some of us reach for our Zeus Books as discussed in a recent thread.

                                                Martin C

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