Will keep my eyes open but do not think that they will be on ebay worthwhile members going round the scrappies especially the pikie ones asking an innocent question like do you have any small quantities of copper tube"!! If you spot one do not confront walk out and get police.

Bob

Don't think they'll have much chance of retrieving these items,earlier this year £15000 worth of copper cable was taken in Paisley, last year thieves stole a 1 1/2 ton cast iron bell scrap value £5000 from Johnstone/Paisley, gone without a trace and nobody saw it being taken. Scrap dealers must know this stuff is nicked. So its about time they came down really hard on dealers that accept stolen scrap, a few heavy jail sentences and confiscation of property against proceeds of crime this would soon change the dealer’s attitudes to this sort of crime.

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Edited By Cyril Bonnett on 23/05/2012 13:51:45

This is all about making money while they can, in the paper today a drug addict was jailed for two years while on bail for a similar offence, was caught on the roof of a Church after the lead.

Clive

hi sorry about your loss is it not time to number boilers ect i know the cost would be high be all could be traced when been sold and could be traced if recovered simmo

Metal thieves are here to stay (literally in most cases) and not much can be done in areas with limited police numbers .

Perhaps better to look at security .

The obvious is to have a well thought out system of security alarms , locks and registered key holders for clubs .

Less obvious would be application of modern anti-theft and tracing technology . It is for instance possible to do these things :

Invisibly mark a boiler , engine , tool or raw material with a unique code .

Fit anti-theft and tracing chips , collars and tags . Shops have a very simple system of anti theft labels .These have a passive device on goods and a shop door detector . Cars have anti theft devices and some have full track and trace on moving car .

Have an alarm which is triggered when metal is simply moved .

Have silent alarms with radio or telephone based owner and police call out .

Notes:

All the tag and tracking devices need an activate – deactivate control which is easy for legitimate owners to use but almost impossible for thieves . Car immobiiser devices would work as would some types of fail after x tries alphameric punchcode devices .

For some applications the link wire alarms seen in model shows would be much better than nothing – especially if connected to a very loud and irritating alarm .

Michael Williams .

Theft of metal over here n Hungary is so common and prevalent that people accept it as normal. Anything and everything goes. Overhead railway conductors from the railways vanish overnight. Power lines (and pylons) were taken from the building of a new grid supply. If a thunderstorm knocks out the local breakers the locals watch their power supply lines as they have a habit of vanishing.

This process was made worse by ‘oriental gents’ with suitcases full of` Euros. Almost everything went including wire fences. Scrap yards and Metal Stock Yards emptied over night. Old cars vanished and everything went. This is why 80-90% of lamp posts etc are in precast concrete.

In Hungary stuff can be out of the country in two to three hours However it takes some 23 – 30 hours to get to Europort and longer to get to Constanta,

That is why all my metal is 'under lock and key'

Rdgs

Dick

Ianmac, can you give me a way to contact the Paisley club. I live near Bridge of Weir.

Dare I say the police are not interested whatsoever. There I've said it.

Regards bear..