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7 August 2021 at 14:57 #557419
Curtis Rutter
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I’m looking at purchasing the Sieg SX2P mill but want to mount it on my current workbench, looking at the workbench that’s available from Arc Euro I’m wondering if what I already have will be strong enough.

Unfortuantely the user manual for the bench/drawers doesn’t give any information on load capacity.

This is the worktop/bench in question, was thinking it would be mounted on the worktop in between the 7 drawer and larger cupboard so would have the main support underneath from both cupboards. The Sieg weighs in at approx 70kg and I’m 80kg and have stood on it to reach something on top and no flexi on but obviously long term I’m unsure

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7 August 2021 at 14:57 #10922
Curtis Rutter
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7 August 2021 at 15:20 #557422
Bill Phinn
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The SX2P's net weight is 60KG.

Unless you're going to be bolting unfeasibly heavy items to the milling table I'd be astonished if that bench couldn't support the mill's weight long term.
7 August 2021 at 15:41 #557429
Roger Best
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I was looking at this problem last year, metal cabinets are good for about 100kg each, however they can rattle and wobble so I would advise that you brace the tops to the wall, and to each other very rigidly. your floor is wonderful so I won't mention levelling.
7 August 2021 at 15:50 #557431
Curtis Rutter
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Posted by Roger Best on 07/08/2021 15:41:58:

I was looking at this problem last year, metal cabinets are good for about 100kg each, however they can rattle and wobble so I would advise that you brace the tops to the wall, and to each other very rigidly. your floor is wonderful so I won't mention levelling.

Thank you

Good thinking, can easily enough brace them to the garage brick wall with a bolt or two on top of them being bolted to each other already
7 August 2021 at 19:38 #557449
Ady1
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@ady1
I thought you were showing us your kitchen

…your workshop is cleaner than my kitchen…
7 August 2021 at 20:24 #557458
Neil A
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@neila
Just a couple of observations on where you intend to place the mill, just check the height from your worktop to the overhead lockers, maximum height of the SX2P with the head raised is approximately 750mm.

The other thing to consider is that the hand wheel for the X axis is on the right hand side of the table, if you position the mill over the draw and cupboard join you may find yourself with a long reach for the hand wheel over the angled worktop. You have probably thought about that already.

Your workshop looks too nice to be covered in nasty swarf!

Neil
7 August 2021 at 20:27 #557460
HOWARDT
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I had my SX2P bolted to a couple of kitchen cabinets, eight feet 40kg max each. All was no trouble without them being fixed to anything. With a corner unit as shown doubt you would have any problem.
7 August 2021 at 20:30 #557464
Dave Halford
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Posted by Bill Phinn on 07/08/2021 15:20:23:

The SX2P's net weight is 60KG.

Unless you're going to be bolting unfeasibly heavy items to the milling table I'd be astonished if that bench couldn't support the mill's weight long term.

I have my Centec 2A (365lbs) on a similar cabinet, apart from mines on wheels, thats a 100kg more than yours.
7 August 2021 at 20:39 #557467
old mart
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@oldmart
If you are worried, why not reinforce the entire top with a single fitted piece of 19mm plywood.
7 August 2021 at 21:04 #557472
Howard Lewis
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I was going to suggest reinforcing either with thick ply, or with steel plate., (3mm steel will reinforce the worktop quite well ) If you could clamp some thin Ali or steel bent upm into man angle (16 gauge or thinner, around the edges, that would make the steel reinforcement into a swarf tray as well.

Howard
7 August 2021 at 22:00 #557479
Curtis Rutter
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Posted by old mart on 07/08/2021 20:39:12:

If you are worried, why not reinforce the entire top with a single fitted piece of 19mm plywood.

Perfect that’s good to know
7 August 2021 at 22:00 #557480
Curtis Rutter
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Posted by Howard Lewis on 07/08/2021 21:04:05:

I was going to suggest reinforcing either with thick ply, or with steel plate., (3mm steel will reinforce the worktop quite well ) If you could clamp some thin Ali or steel bent upm into man angle (16 gauge or thinner, around the edges, that would make the steel reinforcement into a swarf tray as well.

Howard

That’s a great idea, better than having the swarf and any cutting fluid/Lubricant going all over the worktop!

Edited By Curtis Rutter on 07/08/2021 22:01:28
7 August 2021 at 22:07 #557481
Pete.
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The original x2 I had needed to be raised slightly on a plinth so you could turn the front handle without your hand hitting the worktop.

I don't know if this is still necessary on the revised new version, but it helps dissipate the weight a bit also, that worktop you have looks plenty thick enough on its own anyway.
8 August 2021 at 06:57 #557490
Ron Laden
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@ronladen17547
I have my SX2P sitting on an extension to one end of a bench, made up of a 2" x 1" top frame clad with two thicknesses of 12mm ply standing on four 3" x 2" legs and its fine.

Looking at your bench I don't think you will have any problems assuming the worktop sits on top of the cabinets which you say it does it will be more than strong enough.

Re a swarf/oil tray I found a shallow baking tray which the mill base sits in, saves having to make one. If you search around you can find quite large ones that fit larger type ovens.

Ron
8 August 2021 at 08:55 #557501
Curtis Rutter
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@curtisrutter61973
Posted by Ron Laden on 08/08/2021 06:57:45:

Re a swarf/oil tray I found a shallow baking tray which the mill base sits in, saves having to make one. If you search around you can find quite large ones that fit larger type ovens.

Ron

Good idea
8 August 2021 at 19:51 #557592
Robert Butler
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@robertbutler92161
Don't forget the extra height need for a draw bar swap.

Robert Butler
8 August 2021 at 20:03 #557595
Neil A
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@neila
You don't need to worry about the draw bar, it extracts completely within the height of the motor beside it, although you don't need to take it completely very often, mine usually stays in place even if there is no cutter attached.

Neil
14 August 2021 at 17:12 #558236
Dr_GMJN
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Posted by Pete. on 07/08/2021 22:07:47:

The original x2 I had needed to be raised slightly on a plinth so you could turn the front handle without your hand hitting the worktop.

I don't know if this is still necessary on the revised new version, but it helps dissipate the weight a bit also, that worktop you have looks plenty thick enough on its own anyway.

Yes, I've got my SX2P on a 1" high plinth. Without it, I'd have bruised fingers.

I've got mine on a home made table, with access to the front and both ends. I think I'd find it very restrictive to work with, boxed in like the O/P is planning, but I suppose it depends to an extent on what work they're doing with it.

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15 August 2021 at 09:17 #558288
Ron Laden
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@ronladen17547
I didn't stand my SX2 on a plinth I positioned it so the front of the base casting was at the front edge of the bench which means the Y handwheel over hangs and is clear of the bench. The bottom of the X handwheel sits 2 inches above the bench and is fine.

Ron
15 August 2021 at 16:41 #558361
Dr_GMJN
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Posted by Neil A on 08/08/2021 20:03:40:

You don't need to worry about the draw bar, it extracts completely within the height of the motor beside it, although you don't need to take it completely very often, mine usually stays in place even if there is no cutter attached.

Neil

I have to clout the top of the drawbar bolt with a soft hammer to break the taper join, so you need room for that too (unless there’s a less medieval method I’ve missed?).
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