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  • #494188
    Chris TickTock
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      @christicktock

      Hi Guys,

      I have lost a few pounds cutting 50mm square aluminium with my 12 inch hacksaw. I tried cutting liquid but still hard.

      Is there a better way to cit this would a bigger tooth saw be better? How does aluminium cut with an angle grinder, my memory tells me it snatches?

      Chris

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      Chris TickTock
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        @christicktock
        #494194
        larry phelan 1
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          @larryphelan1

          I would imagine that a course blade and WD40 would help [fine blades clog up with Ali ]

          50×50 is not too big and the exercise will help to build up a thirst to justify a trip to the pub later on.

          Plan "B" would be to buy a Chinese junk bandsaw, like mine, still going strong after 20 years, and let it do the cutting while you do something else [like drinking the afore mentioned beer ] Just looking at it working would give a thirst. How do I know ? Ask me !

          Life is too short to waste your time in that manner, cop yourself on. I gave up that game long ago and now use the hacksaw only when I have to. That,s what bandsaws were made for.cheeky

          #494195
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            @mgnbuk

            How many TPI on your hacksaw blade ? 12" blades are available in various tooth counts from 10 to 32 TPI.

            For a 50mm section soft material bar you would want a coarse pitch blade (10 TPI) & I would be lubricating it with WD40 or similar.

            I would not try a cut-off wheel on aluminium unless the wheel was specifically rated to such use – aluminium clogs abrasive wheels, which can have unpleasant consequences.

            Nigel B.

            #494196
            Bo’sun
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              @bosun58570

              Hi Chris,

              Try some chalk on the blade and in the cut, it helps stop the aluminium clogging the teeth. At the end of the day, big teeth, wide kerf and a bit of sweat. Oh sorry, and beer!

              #494202
              Mike Poole
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                @mikepoole82104

                A coarse blade, 18tpi is probably the most common coarse blade. A rage type chop saw will make short work of this task. I have used a wood chopsaw but it can be a bit grabby and it did chip some Carbide teeth So not recommended. Using cutting fluid on a hacksaw with aluminium is a bit of a win and lose, it cuts nicely but clogs up more.

                Mike

                #494207
                Peter G. Shaw
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                  @peterg-shaw75338

                  Yes, 18tpi blades and use paraffin to lubricate the cut and to help wash out the chips (it doesn't need much).

                  Peter G. Shaw

                  #494210
                  Dave Halford
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                    @davehalford22513
                    Posted by Mike Poole on 04/09/2020 14:55:57:

                    I have used a wood chopsaw but it can be a bit grabby and it did chip some Carbide teeth So not recommended.

                    Mike

                    In my youth I was guilty of using a B&D circular saw attachment on a two inch block of ally.

                    Drill in low gear and a slightly blunt HSS blade. The shrapnel was murderous, but the block was cut, the drill survived and the blade was not noticeably blunter.

                    #494213
                    steamdave
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                      @steamdave

                      Now, as for technique with your new blade:

                      With the bar in your vice, start sawing 'uphill' (from bottom front to top mid) then saw 'downhill' (from top mid to rear bottom). This will give you an inverted V shaped slot. Cut off the apex then resume as before. The logic behind this is that your cuts are shorter than just cutting straight across the bar.

                      Thanks to Tubal Caine (Tom Walshaw) for this method.

                      Now I've got a power hacksaw, my muscles have become all flabby without the use of Armstrong's Patent.

                      Dave
                      The Emerald Isle

                      #494215
                      Adam Mara
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                        @adammara

                        At work they cut a lot of aluminium section, from memory its a DeWalt chopsaw with a aluminium cutting blade, which are available.

                        #494218
                        Stuart Bridger
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                          @stuartbridger82290

                          I feel your pain, I went through the same with a 3 x  1 1/2 section and purchased a bandsaw for the next time!
                          Seriously though the coarsest blade you can get and WD40 should help.

                          Edited By Stuart Bridger on 04/09/2020 16:24:23

                          #494224
                          Chris TickTock
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                            @christicktock

                            Thanks guys I appreciate all posts and will note comments for the next time.

                            Chris

                            #494231
                            SillyOldDuffer
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                              @sillyoldduffer

                              Don't ask how I know, blush, but a common beginner mistake is sawing too fast and with too much pressure.

                              Let the tool do the work! Gentle down pressure only with each cutting stroke taking about a second. Also try to use the full length of the blade otherwise all the wear occurs in the middle, and the blade goes blunt quickly on the section doing all the work. Have a good look at the teeth in the centre of the blade through a magnifying glass – they may be blunt or clogged. Dump blunt blades.

                              Blades wore quickly and sawing was exceptionally hard work when I started. They last longer and the job is easier now my technique has improved. I put it down to learning to work the teeth in the sweet spot between excessive wear due to forced cutting, and blunting caused by rubbing. Teeth should cut with as much of their edge as possible but no more. Forcing a blade deeper than the length of its teeth causes severe wear and multiplies the effort needed to remove metal.

                              In other words, try slowing down and don't force the blade into the metal.

                              I love my cheapo 6×4 band-saw! Sawing by hand is too tiring and tedious.

                              Dave

                              #494235
                              Dusty
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                                @dusty

                                I learnt from my Grandfather about sawing, he was not an engineer but a carpenter. He had a little rhyme to which you applied to the sawing "hold on tightly press on lightly" sawing to the rhythm of the rhyme. It works for wood as well as metal.

                                #494237
                                Noel Murphy
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                                  @noelmurphy40921

                                  How can you tell if a cut off disk is rated for aluminium? Is there a special symbol? Searching for 'aluminium cut off disk' doesn't help because they all contain aluminium oxide.

                                  #494240
                                  JasonB
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                                    @jasonb

                                    Should have it written on the disc like these

                                    #494246
                                    larry phelan 1
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                                      @larryphelan1

                                      Like me, S-O-D got a pain in his butt with the hacksaw !!

                                      Long live the cheapy junk bandsaw !!!!!

                                      #494248
                                      Bob Worsley
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                                        @bobworsley31976

                                        If cutting with something toothed then must use a lubricant to stop it welding to the tooth tip, WD40 is fine.

                                        Any stone angle grinder disc will happily cut aluminium, steel will not work. I know because I cut a CVRT aluminium tank in half to shift it to the scrappy.

                                        The Evolution metal cutting saws are brilliant, the Clarke ones aren't.

                                        #494265
                                        norman valentine
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                                          @normanvalentine78682

                                          i use 1mm cut off blades in my angle grinder, they work fine.

                                          The cheapest I can find>

                                          #494313
                                          roy entwistle
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                                            @royentwistle24699

                                            Norman For cutting aluminium ?

                                            #494314
                                            norman valentine
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                                              @normanvalentine78682

                                              Roy, yes for aluminium.The blades are designated for cutting stainless steel and they do not clog up on aluminium.

                                              #494390
                                              Neil Lickfold 1
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                                                @neillickfold1

                                                A fine cross cut blade on a sturdy drop saw will work to cut Al section. We use at work, a vegetable oil that is lightly misted onto the blade from both sides. When the blade dulls, the metal will feel warm to touch. You can use a special AL cutting blade, but a regular blade will work as long as you are careful. We clamp both sides of the piece in the dropsaw. At home I cut al extrusions on a battery powered dropsaw. I just use the fine cross cut carbide blade. It is only a 2mm kerf. I use a piece of wood against the back rail for each cut, to support the extrusion and it makes a very clean exit cut. I use a piece wood also on the front and clamp when possible clamp it on both sides. If I am only cutting a small piece off one end, with my saw, I clamp the assembly from the LH side, as the motor is on the RH side. At home I have the vaccum on the back of the saw, and have made some cardboard sides to help capture the chips etc. I use a squirt of wd40 or crc from a spray can onto the front of the blade as it is cutting. With the whole assembly clamped in place, I only need one hand to control the saw.

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